Ryanair launches legal action against pilots' union (merged)
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Ask not for whom the gavel tolls......
Oh, I don't know, atse, incitement to criminal activity and dereliction of duty may very well be construed as freedom of speech of sorts, don't you think? It will be interesting to learn the courts view. Intentionally wasting fuel, provoking artificial delays to the production, calling in sick enmasse? If that’s the best that REPA, the stillborn baby of IALPA/BALPA, can come up with, its little wonder that their 200 predominantly deaf/mute members are jumping ship faster than rats off the Lusitania.
Since the free ride ends on April 18th and pilots will have to shell out their own hard earned cash to fund REPA's inept fumbling, I don't suppose they'll be around for much longer. The rate of departure might even be quickened when the supposedly anonymous 'codenames' are ordered revealed.
The penny must surely drop soon, folks. Union representation is seen by the vast majority of professional pilots at Ryanair for what it is, a pernicious, devious organisation of the shadows. It claims to speak with one voice, by means of rancour and intimidation, but in truth represents only their own interest in seeing Ryanair fail or become profoundly shackled in order to preserve and protect the luxurious privileged position of their 'A' list membership at Aer Lingus and BA. Organisations who, by virtue of our success, are feeling increasingly threatened by the ever stronger results of Ryanair in the marketplace.
Since the free ride ends on April 18th and pilots will have to shell out their own hard earned cash to fund REPA's inept fumbling, I don't suppose they'll be around for much longer. The rate of departure might even be quickened when the supposedly anonymous 'codenames' are ordered revealed.
The penny must surely drop soon, folks. Union representation is seen by the vast majority of professional pilots at Ryanair for what it is, a pernicious, devious organisation of the shadows. It claims to speak with one voice, by means of rancour and intimidation, but in truth represents only their own interest in seeing Ryanair fail or become profoundly shackled in order to preserve and protect the luxurious privileged position of their 'A' list membership at Aer Lingus and BA. Organisations who, by virtue of our success, are feeling increasingly threatened by the ever stronger results of Ryanair in the marketplace.
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Now exactly why did I feel another bout of exaggeration, propaganda and nonsense coming on? And here we are ... on queue. These Ryanair actions in courts, etc. always seem to be followed by a PR offensive where you knock those opposed to Ryanair's abuse of everybody in sight.
But on each occasion when we eventually get to read the news from the courts, etc. the facts never seem to support the great fuss that was made at the beginning. The court case report above tells it all (now what did the judge say again...?).
Do you not think the management in Ryanair have something to fear? 'Course not. But .... let's wait and see. I think these REPA people have your measure.
But on each occasion when we eventually get to read the news from the courts, etc. the facts never seem to support the great fuss that was made at the beginning. The court case report above tells it all (now what did the judge say again...?).
Do you not think the management in Ryanair have something to fear? 'Course not. But .... let's wait and see. I think these REPA people have your measure.
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Who are you trying to fool? If you belive what you have posted then the only person you are fooling is yourself. However do not stop posting as it is great entertainment, your performance is almost worthy of some of the great bannana republics from South America. No doubt you will be holding a parade in your honour next week.
Keep smiling it makes the management nervous.
Who are you trying to fool? If you belive what you have posted then the only person you are fooling is yourself. However do not stop posting as it is great entertainment, your performance is almost worthy of some of the great bannana republics from South America. No doubt you will be holding a parade in your honour next week.
Keep smiling it makes the management nervous.
LH-C's preposterous postings are almost as good as the propaganda spun by 'Comical Ali' as Saddam's regime collapsed around his ears.....
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LH-C's preposterous postings are almost as good as the propaganda spun by 'Comical Ali' as Saddam's regime collapsed around his ears.....
Although I'm not yet in the business, I too fail to see just what it is that a union can do for me better than I can do myself. From all the posts that I have read here regarding BALPA, the only impression I get is that BALPA and their members generally have two different agendas.
Leo's comments are stimulating and not "preposterous".
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High Wing Drifter, what makes you think that so many people, in so many threads, make it very clear that Ryanair is a particularly "difficult" employer? (I'm trying to avoid the judgmental words here).
While I admire your confidence I think, with the greatest of respect, that you would not have a hope of "looking after yourself" in Ryanair. You would have two choices; either to accept what happens to you, or be fired/leave. "Looking after" does not come into it. You don't need any more proof than to read the multitude of posts readily available in different threads on this site.
In Ryanair it is not just unions that are seen to be the devil incarnate, but also any group of two or more who attempt to do something togther, or individuals who show themselves willing to stand up for themselves.
Which is why people who never thought they would join a union find themselves joining a union.... Some people get this message the hard way, others learn it. But, apart from a small group of "fellow travellers", most people in Ryanair learn it before they even get to line training.
Of course, there is always the possibility that you know this very well and are a "fellow traveller" who wishes to blunt the negatives that are spreading throughout the industry. If you are, it will not take many posts for you to make your pedigree clear.
While I admire your confidence I think, with the greatest of respect, that you would not have a hope of "looking after yourself" in Ryanair. You would have two choices; either to accept what happens to you, or be fired/leave. "Looking after" does not come into it. You don't need any more proof than to read the multitude of posts readily available in different threads on this site.
In Ryanair it is not just unions that are seen to be the devil incarnate, but also any group of two or more who attempt to do something togther, or individuals who show themselves willing to stand up for themselves.
Which is why people who never thought they would join a union find themselves joining a union.... Some people get this message the hard way, others learn it. But, apart from a small group of "fellow travellers", most people in Ryanair learn it before they even get to line training.
Of course, there is always the possibility that you know this very well and are a "fellow traveller" who wishes to blunt the negatives that are spreading throughout the industry. If you are, it will not take many posts for you to make your pedigree clear.
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Anyone who works for Ryanair or choses to work for Ryanair knows that it is a succesful business because of the "model" it uses. FR is under such a sustained attacK from the unions because where it leads others follow. Horses for courses I'm afraid.
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hansol,the thing is it could be a more successful company,if all this bull stopped and all there worked for the common goal of making it the best.but now the management and workers are pulling in completely opposite directions and it is without doubt affecting the companies performance.
Why does Comical Hairy Hole fear collective bargaining so avidly?
Surely the synergy of management and the pilots' representative body pulling together would be mutually beneficial? Or would that worry a dictatorial management too much?
Surely the synergy of management and the pilots' representative body pulling together would be mutually beneficial? Or would that worry a dictatorial management too much?
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Beagle,
Surely you are not saying that the style of managament at the glorious Harped Airline is in anyway adversarial .
I am sure you are not suggesting that a culture of fear and intimidation disseminates down from the upper echelons of "Europe's biggest airline"
Cheers
BHR
Surely you are not saying that the style of managament at the glorious Harped Airline is in anyway adversarial .
I am sure you are not suggesting that a culture of fear and intimidation disseminates down from the upper echelons of "Europe's biggest airline"
Cheers
BHR
I have no idea what the actual management style is like - but in all the interviews I've seen, Mo'L comes across as someone I would never wish to work for. People like Comical Hairy Hole merely serve to reinforce that opinion.
It will never affect me personally as I will NEVER fly RyanAir....
But I'm sure that they won't miss my 99p or whatever it is that they pretend to charge for flying with them.
It will never affect me personally as I will NEVER fly RyanAir....
But I'm sure that they won't miss my 99p or whatever it is that they pretend to charge for flying with them.
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White noise.
I have no idea what the actual management style is like
In view of the fact that our market has shifted, and in further view of the fact that Ryanair has the lowest margins, the highest profitability, the lowest PE ratio of any LCC on earth, and the greatest prospects for success in the future of our business, it may be salutary reading for those visitors to this site to reflect upon the fundamental truth that there are many, without and within, who have an interest in seeing us fail.
BALPA is a useless and toothless organisation, unless one happens to be lucky enough to be born under the Hamble star. Those lucky few of the Atlantic Baronet that are placing more and more pressure on poor old Unlce Merv to make sure that we nasty, and distinctly un-British low cost johnnies just go away.
Wake up and smell the nitrous oxides. Success is the best revenge.
Leo.
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Said with such a heartfelt feeling as well
Oh and Leo.......to hell with anyone...anything...or anybody wishing to retain some level of dignity, integrity, loyalty.....or any other of the traits that MOL..and the management of your organisation so clearly despise...
What a wonderful job you must have....never stopping to ask, to think, or for that matter, care.
What a wonderful job you must have....never stopping to ask, to think, or for that matter, care.