Ryanair launches legal action against pilots' union (merged)
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Words of wisdom from the Bunker....
My money is on Mullingar Mick.
1-0 Labour court rules that it has jurisdiction to hear IMPACT/IALPA complaint.
2-0 Rights commissioner rules that he, too, has jurisdiction to hear the Victimisation complaints
3-0 JG gets ex-parte injunction
3-1 Evil empire secures leave to appeal against Labour Court 1st goal - trumpets same from the heavens in DOBs inimitablle style
OOPS! Video referee consulted
Seems the Evil Empire "forget" to tell everyone that while they secured leave to appeal the LC finding, the High Court REFUSED to grant them an injunction restraining the Labour Court from proceeding with the substantive hearing in the meantime!!!! And refused to grant them 2 declarations seeking to quash the LCs findings on collective bargaining and the existence of a trade dispute, AND refused a further request for a declaration about union recognition. You'd never have guessed that from the Evil empire press release or DoB's masterful summary of the High Court "success". Dear me!!
3-0 Goal disallowed!!!!
4-0 On mature recollection (!) Video referee awards High Court goal to the good guys
5-0 Justice Kelly continues the JG injunction and finds
"disquieting aspects" about the procedures adopted by Ryanair
Yes, my money is on Mullingar Mick too..........NOT
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It's also a well-known fact L H-C (if that is your real name), that FR are currently chasing contract pilots with a list of promises as long as the proverbial, despite the continued claim of massive numbers of pilots attempting to pay to knock down your door! 
Keep it up lads!
Keep it up lads!
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quote "the judge said it was clear from affidavits read to the court that their is a dispute between ryanair and ialpa".
not knowing a lot about the law but,i am sure that precedent is a major player in high court decisions.looking at the above statement.it is my opinion that the high court looks likely to overrule ryanairs attempted challenge on the recent labour court ruling.in which ryanairs case was premised on the suggestion that there was no conflict between the two and that ryanair had internal negotiation procedures to cater for disputes.
i would then suppose that the lrc will rule on this matter in the near future.
not knowing a lot about the law but,i am sure that precedent is a major player in high court decisions.looking at the above statement.it is my opinion that the high court looks likely to overrule ryanairs attempted challenge on the recent labour court ruling.in which ryanairs case was premised on the suggestion that there was no conflict between the two and that ryanair had internal negotiation procedures to cater for disputes.
i would then suppose that the lrc will rule on this matter in the near future.
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on mol...
Mick...
get some help, please! All I can see here are several pyschological disabilities talking grasp very quickly. You seem to be exhibiting signs of paranoia and multiple personality disorders....
your train of thought seems inconclusive and in some places dismantled, almost as if your accepted degrees of logic have now been grossly misplaced...
Some examples...
References to unions which constantly allege seperate entities (IALPA, then BALPA, and then REPA) of actions not committed by them
Inability to grasp concepts that support structures being offered to pilots are by REPA, not the other organisations listed
Lack of understanding of moral framework, exemplified by the reference to John Goss, one of the company's oldest employees (yet here reference to your inability to maintain conherent thought is also exemplified)
Inability to claim responsibilities, perhaps augmented by multiple personality disorders, by alleging to be other individuals to avoid claim to your actions and/or statements
Constant fabrication of facts. Multiple examples are evident in your posts of this, demonstrating your inability or perhaps your unwillingness to accept the truth behind circumstances
Please please please seek pyschiatric advice immediately!
get some help, please! All I can see here are several pyschological disabilities talking grasp very quickly. You seem to be exhibiting signs of paranoia and multiple personality disorders....
your train of thought seems inconclusive and in some places dismantled, almost as if your accepted degrees of logic have now been grossly misplaced...
Some examples...
References to unions which constantly allege seperate entities (IALPA, then BALPA, and then REPA) of actions not committed by them
Inability to grasp concepts that support structures being offered to pilots are by REPA, not the other organisations listed
Lack of understanding of moral framework, exemplified by the reference to John Goss, one of the company's oldest employees (yet here reference to your inability to maintain conherent thought is also exemplified)
Inability to claim responsibilities, perhaps augmented by multiple personality disorders, by alleging to be other individuals to avoid claim to your actions and/or statements
Constant fabrication of facts. Multiple examples are evident in your posts of this, demonstrating your inability or perhaps your unwillingness to accept the truth behind circumstances
Please please please seek pyschiatric advice immediately!
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CORPORATE PSYCHOPATHY
It definitely makes interesting reading, here's a link for anyone interested:
http://siivola.org/monte/papers_grou...sychopathy.htm
http://siivola.org/monte/papers_grou...sychopathy.htm
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Recognise anybody???????????
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I've read the references above to various psychological disorders. Rather disquieting I must say. But familiar too! I'd like to open a bank account so that we can all contribute to the treatment of Leo Hairy-Camel (would that be one of the Mullingar Hairy-Camel's I wonder in passing?).
Your support for his treatment will be gratefully received. Wonder what that treatment will be?
Your support for his treatment will be gratefully received. Wonder what that treatment will be?
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Online Links
All these weblinks to info on serial loopers / bullies etc
Is there a £50 registration fee?
No, I remember the website where the £50 fee was :
www.pilotjobsmyhole.com
Is there a £50 registration fee?
No, I remember the website where the £50 fee was :
www.pilotjobsmyhole.com
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General feeling seems to be that it is ever so slowly dawning on them that there may be real trouble for management figures on the way. I was even present for a conversation over the weekend where the speculation on who was going to have to take the blame for the forthcoming "bad news in public" events that (I am told) are lining up. I hope that these events really are lining up, because that will be about time (and should be good entertainment too).
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Its a common feature in Irish management circles (and probably worldwide) that when the **** starts to hit the fan - the guy who was at the sharp end finds himself abandoned by his management buddies.
They all go charging up the hill together at first, but when the arrows fly in the wrong direction - the troops disappear.
It was seen recently in another large Irish company.
I wonder who'll get hung out to dry? Not O'Leary anyhow.
What was the name of the guy who wrote all those threatening letters and memos? He's a good mark.
They all go charging up the hill together at first, but when the arrows fly in the wrong direction - the troops disappear.
It was seen recently in another large Irish company.
I wonder who'll get hung out to dry? Not O'Leary anyhow.
What was the name of the guy who wrote all those threatening letters and memos? He's a good mark.
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Ryanair wins court order against 'mystery bullies'
RYANAIR yesterday secured a High Court order restraining two members of the Irish Airline Pilots Association and its British counterpart, BALPA, from deleting or destroying codenames used on the Ryanair European Pilots Association website which allegedly concern intimidation and criminal activity against some of the airline's pilots.
The airline submitted in an affidavit that the unknown persons, allegedly known to the defendants, are engaged in a process of intimidation, bullying, harassment and criminal activity designed to dissuade Ryanair pilots from taking up position with a new aircraft fleet.
Yesterday's order runs until April 4. When the case comes to full hearing, Ryanair will seek an order directing the defendants to disclose the names and address of those allegedly referred to by codenames on the REPA website.
Richard Nesbitt SC and Martin Hayden SC for Ryanair, told Mr Justice Philip O'Sullivan the airline was in the process of converting its Dublin fleet to 737 800 aircraft and was seeking pilots. However, he submitted, the company became aware of allegations in December 2004 of intimidation, bullying and harassment of Ryanair pilots for the purpose of dissuading them from accepting positions in Dublin flying these aircraft.
Ryanair submitted to the court yesterday that REPA had a website designed to allow Ryanair pilots communicate while obscuring the identity of the person communicating through the use of codenames.
John Maddock
Irish Independant
RYANAIR yesterday secured a High Court order restraining two members of the Irish Airline Pilots Association and its British counterpart, BALPA, from deleting or destroying codenames used on the Ryanair European Pilots Association website which allegedly concern intimidation and criminal activity against some of the airline's pilots.
The airline submitted in an affidavit that the unknown persons, allegedly known to the defendants, are engaged in a process of intimidation, bullying, harassment and criminal activity designed to dissuade Ryanair pilots from taking up position with a new aircraft fleet.
Yesterday's order runs until April 4. When the case comes to full hearing, Ryanair will seek an order directing the defendants to disclose the names and address of those allegedly referred to by codenames on the REPA website.
Richard Nesbitt SC and Martin Hayden SC for Ryanair, told Mr Justice Philip O'Sullivan the airline was in the process of converting its Dublin fleet to 737 800 aircraft and was seeking pilots. However, he submitted, the company became aware of allegations in December 2004 of intimidation, bullying and harassment of Ryanair pilots for the purpose of dissuading them from accepting positions in Dublin flying these aircraft.
Ryanair submitted to the court yesterday that REPA had a website designed to allow Ryanair pilots communicate while obscuring the identity of the person communicating through the use of codenames.
John Maddock
Irish Independant