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Old 24th Jan 2005, 06:44
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Unhappy 747 of rwy in DUS

just through the radio:

This morning a 747 freighter went of the runway during landing rollout. Two engines on fire, but extinguished quickliy by airport fire service. No injuries and delays in the operations.

... right now Metar:

EDDH 240720Z 36010KT 9999 FEW025 M01/M04 Q1016 05720187 15710187 NOSIG

original: WDR news radio

Flughafen Düsseldorf: Frachtmaschine fing Feuer

Auf dem Düsseldorfer Flughafen ist am Morgen eine Frachtmaschine von der Landebahn abgekommen.

Zwei Triebwerke der Boeing 747 der ***** aus Dubai fingen Feuer. Die Flughafen-Feuerwehr konnte den Brand schnell löschen. Verletzt wurde niemand, so ein Sprecher des Flughafens. Der Flugbetrieb sei zurzeit leicht eingeschränkt.

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Old 24th Jan 2005, 07:09
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DUS = EDDH ???
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DUS = Dusseldorf = EDDL

HAMBURG - EDDH - HAM
FC: EDDH 240600Z 240716 36011KT 9999 FEW030
TEMPO 1115 01015G25KT=


FT: TAF EDDH 240400Z 241206 01009KT 9999 FEW025
TEMPO 1215 02015G25KT =


DUSSELDORF - EDDL - DUS
FC: EDDL 240600Z 240716 36012KT 9999 BKN030
TEMPO 0710 1400 BR BKN014=


FT: TAF EDDL 240400Z 241206 35010KT 9999 BKN040
TEMPO 1216 01015G25KT
TEMPO 2206 BKN013=
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German TV this morning showed an "EK-Tail", so assumeably an Atlas Air plane
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24. Januar 2005

DÜSSELDORF

Brennender Jumbo legt Flughafen lahm

Eine Frachtmaschine hat mit einer verunglückten Landung den Düsseldorfer Flughafen für eine Stunde lahm gelegt. Als der Jumbo über das Ende der Landebahn hinausrollte, fingen zwei der vier Triebwerke Feuer.

Düsseldorf - Der Zwischenfall mit einer Boeing 747 der amerikanischen Fluggesellschaft Atlas Air ereignete sich gegen 6 Uhr heute Morgen, sagte ein Flughafen-Sprecher. Menschen seien nach bisherigen Erkenntnissen nicht zu Schaden gekommen. Die Flughafenfeuerwehr habe den Brand schnell unter Kontrolle gehabt. Treibstoff sei nicht ausgelaufen, und die Maschine habe keine Gefahrengüter an Bord gehabt.

Allerdings musste der Flugverkehr für rund eine Stunde unterbrochen werden, sagte der Sprecher. Seit kurz nach 7 Uhr könnten auf der nördlichen Rollbahn wieder Maschinen landen und starten. Die südliche Bahn wird noch vom verunglückten Jumbo blockiert.

Die Unglücksmaschine kam aus Dubai. Nun muss die Bundesstelle für Flugunfalluntersuchungen das Flugzeug freigeben. Erst danach kann die Bahn geräumt werden.

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Red face

Yes, it was Atlas operated for EK!

The Regi an friend of mine spotted on the Displys of DUS-Airport is N808MC which is a B747-212F, CN2XX - wiz other words damm old!
I would assume it is a W/O under this circumstances!

Anyway, the airport is posting that both RWY's are open again with little influences.
I assume this means that one RWY is just avaible by half distance or so due to the wreckage-recovery!

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Old 24th Jan 2005, 09:28
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Having its 30th Birthday this year. A very much photographed aircraft.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 13:10
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Here she is:

http://www.rp-online.de/public/bilde...hland/nrw/5827

Don`t miss the links "katastrophe" titles. I surely hope in EDDL they never get to see a real "Katastrophe" with loss of life involved.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 13:26
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See also

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/764616/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/764615/L/

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That's what delayed me this morning

I flew into DUS this morning on BA936 from LHR, and this caused me an hour and a half delay.

Didn't get a real good look at it but it was certainly visible.

They must have just changed direction, as we landed into the opposite direction, which probably also explains why both runways were open again so soon.

By the time we got there, the runway involved was already being used for takeoff.
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Old 25th Jan 2005, 09:44
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Don't complain abou 1,5 hours delay

The airport opens at 6am, up to 7am there are 31 take-offs and a few landings scheduled, the next rush comes between 7:30 and 9am when the first inbound-wave is coming and leaving again.

The crash occured at 6:01, the first movement of the day.
Wiz other words, there were several planes on the ground
preparing for take-off that went up with 2-3 hours delay and causing trouble along the entire network of airlines like Air Berlin, Lufthansa, LTU


A friend of mine wanted to proceed to FRA with LH at 7:25 or so.
He stayed and got another day off - a standby took over his job on the FRA-LIS

As there are several pilots of different Airlines travelling proceeding out of DUS in the mornings on Lufthansa or DBA
I assume some companies have still trouble wiz their crew-schedules!


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Old 26th Jan 2005, 06:15
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"The crash occured at 6:01, the first movement of the day."

Over the years I've always hated being the first one to land. The runway condition is usually unknown and that makes you the test case. Once I landed first at Detroit, went right to the end reversing all the way til stopped and reported nil braking which closed the runway. They landed the next plane on the center and they reported the same, closing that runway. The next plane was landed on the left and you guessed it. They reported nil braking, closed that runway which closed the airport for about two hours until the runways were sanded. Sometimes all it takes is a good frost overnight to make that runway like ice. It's no fun being first sometimes.
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It's no fun being first sometimes.
Zoner,

Well, you shouldn't have been!

In the UK, ANY licenced aerodrome would have had a proper surfacce inspection carried out prior to the first movement, not only big places but small GA fields, too. Even thought we're open H24, we count 30 mins without a movement during the night as a cue for an inspection and of course we do a 'first light' inspection, too.

I'd have thought it would have been in the interests of the aerodrome management at Detriot to ensure that the manoeuvring area is fit for use. I'm not suggesting that Dusseldorf wasn't fit for use.

Sadly, Dusseldorf is no stranger to disaster. A major fire in the Terminal building a few years ago led to much loss of life and was a big wake-up call for the rest of us.
'Nah, couldn't happen here' we thought. Then we looked closer and found that there were big improvements that we could make, which we have done.

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Old 26th Jan 2005, 07:17
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Once again Hello guys,

I doubt there was no check of the RWY before!
This is an obgligation EVERY aerodrome has to perform before opening in the morning and then contiously over the day (I guess every two hours) and also if somebody reports problems like damaged lightening, knurls on/near the RWY...!

So I assume the final outcome will be a blame for the crew to have made a mistake on landing (late touchdown) and/or a wrong config for the weather-circumstances!


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Old 26th Jan 2005, 09:30
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Have some pics taken by MX, and fan blades look toasted after coming through the end of the runway fencing.

Much more damage on closer inspection than look on the pics that have been going around....


Afraid to say that with the age of the A/C,,,might be a W/O.
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Old 26th Jan 2005, 10:01
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So I assume the final outcome will be a blame for the crew to have made a mistake on landing (late touchdown) and/or a wrong config for the weather-circumstances!

That’s an interesting assumption! Do me a favor and check out the landing distance required on a contaminated runway from a FAA approved B747 Flight Manual.

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any update on this inccident-
did they scrap or repair
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Old 12th Nov 2005, 18:02
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Hi guys.

Is the aircraft to be scrapped???

Saw it again the other day , all eng. gone and partly ripped.

Greetings,
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For months it has been the world's only ETOP's 747. But recently (a month or so ago), somebody painted over the Atlas logo's with a yard broom in icky blue paint - but the plane hasn't moved in ages. Maybe Atlas gave the 747 to the airport to pay for the LLZ aerial for 23R.
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Old 13th Nov 2005, 01:05
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Piltdown man,

For info the 747 in DUS does not belong to Atlas anymore, but to the German Airport authority, since they gave the crew the WRONG breaking action on that day.......I was told that it will be use for fire training or something like that.....

It is a quick and easy way to "buy" a 74.....

Atlas has received quite a bit of money from the German......keep up the good job guys, we have few more Classic that we need to sell......

Cheers
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