Ba 777 Full Evacuation In Iah
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Ba 777 Full Evacuation In Iah
A BA 777 made a full evac after an emergency landing in IAH last night (12 Aug) following smoke in the cabin and engine vibrations shortly after takeoff.
All passengers and crew evacuated using full slide deployment with only minor injuries.
Still need to hear further details as it doesnt seem to have hit the press in the UK yet!!!
All passengers and crew evacuated using full slide deployment with only minor injuries.
Still need to hear further details as it doesnt seem to have hit the press in the UK yet!!!
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Kempus,
Here are some links to the story:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/3644504/detail.html
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/081...planefire.html
Cheers,
HaM
Here are some links to the story:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/3644504/detail.html
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/081...planefire.html
Cheers,
HaM
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G-VIID so GE90-85B powered....
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: GVIID Make/Model: B777 Description: B-777
Date: 08/11/2004 Time: 2155
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: HOUSTON State: TX Country: US
DESCRIPTION
BRITISH AIRWAYS, GVIID, B777-200 ACFT REPORTED FUMES IN THE COCKPIT AFTER
DEPARTURE, RETURNED TO THE AIRPORT AND MADE AN EMERGENCY LANDING ON RUNWAY
15L, LEFT ENGINE REPORTED TO BE ON FIRE, FIRE EXTINQUISHED, NO INJURIES TO
THE 133 PERSONS ON BOARD, HOUSTON, TX
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 3 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 129 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: GVIID Make/Model: B777 Description: B-777
Date: 08/11/2004 Time: 2155
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: HOUSTON State: TX Country: US
DESCRIPTION
BRITISH AIRWAYS, GVIID, B777-200 ACFT REPORTED FUMES IN THE COCKPIT AFTER
DEPARTURE, RETURNED TO THE AIRPORT AND MADE AN EMERGENCY LANDING ON RUNWAY
15L, LEFT ENGINE REPORTED TO BE ON FIRE, FIRE EXTINQUISHED, NO INJURIES TO
THE 133 PERSONS ON BOARD, HOUSTON, TX
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 3 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 129 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
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I've just come off BA294 from O'Hare which had come via Houston. Flew with 5 American guys who were on the Houston flight which had the engine fire. From their description I would say this was a pretty major incident - they could see flames from the engine, there was dense smoke in the passenger cabin, and there was an immediate evacuation down the emergency chutes upon landing. Apparently the BA crew were exemplary - handled the situation extremely well.
I've just come off BA294 from O'Hare which had come via Houston. Flew with 5 American guys who were on the Houston flight which had the engine fire. From their description I would say this was a pretty major incident - they could see flames from the engine, there was dense smoke in the passenger cabin,
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And we all know how reliable most pax are in reporting the true details of an incident, don't we?
IF (emphasised) the engine was on fire, why wasn't it shut down and extinguished in flight, or is it that the story is misrepresentative?
Glad there were no major injuries and that all were OK. I'll wait for the official version rather than the pax/press accounts.
IF (emphasised) the engine was on fire, why wasn't it shut down and extinguished in flight, or is it that the story is misrepresentative?
Glad there were no major injuries and that all were OK. I'll wait for the official version rather than the pax/press accounts.
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I am a survivor of the BA2024 IAH - LGW on the 11th!!
On take off vibrations on the left engine could be clearly heard within the aircraft and the Capt imediately notified the paxs of his decision to return.
Shortly after smoke was within the cabin working from front to rear intensifying upon decent.
On clearing the runway the a/c was stopped and shut down immediately as the left engine was on fire.
Immediate evacuation followed using right shutes. One elderly pax was treated at the scene for shock the rest adjouned to the lounge for a large drink!!
Both crew on board and IAH ground staff were excellent though obviously there are learning points
On take off vibrations on the left engine could be clearly heard within the aircraft and the Capt imediately notified the paxs of his decision to return.
Shortly after smoke was within the cabin working from front to rear intensifying upon decent.
On clearing the runway the a/c was stopped and shut down immediately as the left engine was on fire.
Immediate evacuation followed using right shutes. One elderly pax was treated at the scene for shock the rest adjouned to the lounge for a large drink!!
Both crew on board and IAH ground staff were excellent though obviously there are learning points
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Mick,
As a pilot, I'm interested in what happened. When you say at the end there are learning points, are you able to expand? Few of us will see this outside the sim, I commend the crew obviously and if there's anything I can learn then I'm all ears
As a pilot, I'm interested in what happened. When you say at the end there are learning points, are you able to expand? Few of us will see this outside the sim, I commend the crew obviously and if there's anything I can learn then I'm all ears
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What I say should in no way be seen as criticising the crew. We at the end of the day all lived to tell the tale!!
The areas for review / learning would be:
1. Opening of doors left
2. Crew not wearing their hi vis, other than the CSD
3. Very slow on the head count
4. Confusion by crew as to whether to move paxs down or up wind
Sorry nearly forgot a point which I feel should be of concern for you and your colleagues WHY were the crew made to look after the paxs for several hours after we were all taken to the lounge Surely they had also undergone the stress, probably more so then us as they new what was happening / could happen, and needed to relax and be properly debriefed?????
The areas for review / learning would be:
1. Opening of doors left
2. Crew not wearing their hi vis, other than the CSD
3. Very slow on the head count
4. Confusion by crew as to whether to move paxs down or up wind
Sorry nearly forgot a point which I feel should be of concern for you and your colleagues WHY were the crew made to look after the paxs for several hours after we were all taken to the lounge Surely they had also undergone the stress, probably more so then us as they new what was happening / could happen, and needed to relax and be properly debriefed?????
Why evacuate on the same side/wing as an engine fire?
Did many of the other passengers who were unable to see the left engine try to slow the evacuation by grabbing personal items from the overhead or under the seats?
Many passengers have no idea how many exits are behind them-they often tend to swarm to the main cabin door up front.
Maybe we will learn whether the Captain was able to talk directly with the Rescue/Fire Commander. There is often a frequency which the pilots can use for this.
Did many of the other passengers who were unable to see the left engine try to slow the evacuation by grabbing personal items from the overhead or under the seats?
Many passengers have no idea how many exits are behind them-they often tend to swarm to the main cabin door up front.
Maybe we will learn whether the Captain was able to talk directly with the Rescue/Fire Commander. There is often a frequency which the pilots can use for this.
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Ok whats going on. I departed DFW yesterday afternoon and when switched to departure control there was a Speedbird 777 dumping fuel and returning to land at DFW. Connected/coincidence? When we switched to Fortworth centre control they were below 6000` and "ready for the approach"
Anyone know why?
Anyone know why?
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Regarding mike's review points:
Why would they evacuate on the same side as the engine fire?? especially as there was only 130 passengers?
The crew were wearing their day glo hats. BA do not issue hi vis jackets to cabin crew.
I found your comments that were not meant to be criticising the crew the complete opposite.
Although we are trained for these situations, nerves are bound to play a part if the counting wasnt carried out super efficiently.
I think you should be grateful you are alive.
Why would they evacuate on the same side as the engine fire?? especially as there was only 130 passengers?
The crew were wearing their day glo hats. BA do not issue hi vis jackets to cabin crew.
I found your comments that were not meant to be criticising the crew the complete opposite.
Although we are trained for these situations, nerves are bound to play a part if the counting wasnt carried out super efficiently.
I think you should be grateful you are alive.
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Mick...
i think your a typical example of someone who doesnt really appreciate what you have just gone through and I am also curious as to why saw the CSD in a Hi-vis when Iv since asked a colleague who was one of the crew if the csd had one..which he didnt...As mentioned by Worldwidelad...BA do not use hi-vis jackets unlike some airlines, it is proceedure to use the Day-glo hats.
Also, we are trained to only block an exit if there is visible reasons not to open, eg fire and smoke...If the door was opened near the engine in question then it may have been possible that the smoke wasnt considered dense enouigh to safely impede the safe evacuation of the passengers...I know I for one would not send lemmings down a chute into a burning inferno.
And try not to be so sensationalist by saying that you are one of the "SURVIVORS"!!!! That implies there were fatalities and is an insult to not only the other passengers onboard but also the crew of the aircraft that safely got you off in one piece.
I do however apologise that you had to experience this on BA but I do hope that our overall safety proceedures would be a reason why you would chose BA above other airlines again in the future.
As for why did the crew stay with the passengers...this is normal...It helps to alleviate the nerves amongst the passengers if the crew stick around and console eachother. Remember, cabin and flight crew have a duty of care and this could not be more apparent then in a situation like this and that continues even on to the aftermath.
The crew did a truly magnificent job and are a credit to Gatwick Worldwide and indeed British Airways.
i think your a typical example of someone who doesnt really appreciate what you have just gone through and I am also curious as to why saw the CSD in a Hi-vis when Iv since asked a colleague who was one of the crew if the csd had one..which he didnt...As mentioned by Worldwidelad...BA do not use hi-vis jackets unlike some airlines, it is proceedure to use the Day-glo hats.
Also, we are trained to only block an exit if there is visible reasons not to open, eg fire and smoke...If the door was opened near the engine in question then it may have been possible that the smoke wasnt considered dense enouigh to safely impede the safe evacuation of the passengers...I know I for one would not send lemmings down a chute into a burning inferno.
And try not to be so sensationalist by saying that you are one of the "SURVIVORS"!!!! That implies there were fatalities and is an insult to not only the other passengers onboard but also the crew of the aircraft that safely got you off in one piece.
I do however apologise that you had to experience this on BA but I do hope that our overall safety proceedures would be a reason why you would chose BA above other airlines again in the future.
As for why did the crew stay with the passengers...this is normal...It helps to alleviate the nerves amongst the passengers if the crew stick around and console eachother. Remember, cabin and flight crew have a duty of care and this could not be more apparent then in a situation like this and that continues even on to the aftermath.
The crew did a truly magnificent job and are a credit to Gatwick Worldwide and indeed British Airways.
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Not to me...
Accident: Has a definition - this wasn't one.
Danger: Again, not here, I think, with 20/20 hindsight. There was smoke, a vibrating engine. The aircraft in the pictures seems 100% intact, and I do not believe damaged (apart form the initial cause of the vibration / smoke).
Whilst I think the oringal poster made the remark somewhat in jest, your trying to justify it is OTT
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"remain alive after going through, or continue to exist in spite (a danger, accident etc)"
Sounds appropriate to me
Sounds appropriate to me
Accident: Has a definition - this wasn't one.
Danger: Again, not here, I think, with 20/20 hindsight. There was smoke, a vibrating engine. The aircraft in the pictures seems 100% intact, and I do not believe damaged (apart form the initial cause of the vibration / smoke).
Whilst I think the oringal poster made the remark somewhat in jest, your trying to justify it is OTT
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Ladies and Gents
I appear to have offended a few of you and for that I apologise BUT out of every incident one must take onboard areas 'for review' which can enhance our industry and of course safety - that is why this industry has such a good safety record.
Worldwidelad and apaddyinuk
Paxs were not evacuated from the left side, to my knowledge, but the doors were open. This does concern me as the fire brigade were operating on that engine and if it had blown then flames could have entered the cabin - once again not a crticism just an observation for 'review'
Hi vis means not just jackets but anything which differentiates crew from paxs - The CSD, a female called K..., was the ONLY crew wearing her hi vis HAT
Head counts are one of the most important features of such an incident and one which the emergency services require asap - if wating until all paxs are loaded onto the coaches some 30+ mins later is acceptable to you then we shall agree to disagree.
I do realise the crew had a duty of care to the paxs BUT my point was WHO WAS TAKING CARE OF THEM?
Once agin the crew DID a fantastic job and I DO appreciate this. I am alive so I will ALWAYS be eternally grateful to them lets not take offence lets just learn and go forward.
Thank you the crew of BA2024 and because of you I will always fly the flag
I appear to have offended a few of you and for that I apologise BUT out of every incident one must take onboard areas 'for review' which can enhance our industry and of course safety - that is why this industry has such a good safety record.
Worldwidelad and apaddyinuk
Paxs were not evacuated from the left side, to my knowledge, but the doors were open. This does concern me as the fire brigade were operating on that engine and if it had blown then flames could have entered the cabin - once again not a crticism just an observation for 'review'
Hi vis means not just jackets but anything which differentiates crew from paxs - The CSD, a female called K..., was the ONLY crew wearing her hi vis HAT
Head counts are one of the most important features of such an incident and one which the emergency services require asap - if wating until all paxs are loaded onto the coaches some 30+ mins later is acceptable to you then we shall agree to disagree.
I do realise the crew had a duty of care to the paxs BUT my point was WHO WAS TAKING CARE OF THEM?
Once agin the crew DID a fantastic job and I DO appreciate this. I am alive so I will ALWAYS be eternally grateful to them lets not take offence lets just learn and go forward.
Thank you the crew of BA2024 and because of you I will always fly the flag
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Paxs were not evacuated from the left side, to my knowledge, but the doors were open
What led to the PAX only being evacuated from one side? The PA from the Captain? The Cabin Crew's actions?
Were you aware, before landing, that you would be evacuating? Or did you land, come to a halt, and then suddenly end up evacuating?
Glad you appreciate that BA did well on the day. You are quite right that there are always areas to "examine" and "learn from" for the future. That does not mean the actions on the day in question were "wrong", or people are being "criticised".
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