AV8 Air Problems?
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AV8 Air Problems?
Rumours are abounding around MAN, saying that AV8 Air has hit cash problems and the future looks unsound. Apparently the summer programme has been drastically reduced - many flights now being operated by Excel, and they still have not got the 757 off the ground. Passengers apparently not happy with the "direct" flights to CPT (via DUB and PMI), and the state of the leased 767.
I hope this isn't true - I have many friends there and they are all saying they know nothing. Anybody else know anything either way??
I hope this isn't true - I have many friends there and they are all saying they know nothing. Anybody else know anything either way??
Don't know where you get your info from, but the CPT does indeed go non stop MAN-CPT once a week, an additional flt goes via DUB. On a few occassions the returns from CPT have had to make a fuel stop in PMI.
The economy is laid out 2 -3-2 which compares with a scheduled
airline economy class ( rather than the MYT, BAL, 2-4-2 sardine layouts.
Cabin crews have been fine. If you want a direct cheap flt to CPT than you have to accept the slightly inferior IFE, but the aircraft is fine - i've been on it, I've certainly been on alot worse.
The economy is laid out 2 -3-2 which compares with a scheduled
airline economy class ( rather than the MYT, BAL, 2-4-2 sardine layouts.
Cabin crews have been fine. If you want a direct cheap flt to CPT than you have to accept the slightly inferior IFE, but the aircraft is fine - i've been on it, I've certainly been on alot worse.
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Well defib, as a member of crew for av8, I can tell thee....
As far as we have been told, all is well and the summer/winter schedule looks bright. the 767 is up and running and the 757 shortly to follow.
however, it does feel as though we've hit a few cash problems. our crew room has now been moved off the airport grounds all together from the glam regus building beside the hilton to the not so glam surroundings of sale !!!
If anyone else knows or hears of anything, can they post it, so we can abandon ship before we're forced to walk the plank !!
later guys, p8.
As far as we have been told, all is well and the summer/winter schedule looks bright. the 767 is up and running and the 757 shortly to follow.
however, it does feel as though we've hit a few cash problems. our crew room has now been moved off the airport grounds all together from the glam regus building beside the hilton to the not so glam surroundings of sale !!!
If anyone else knows or hears of anything, can they post it, so we can abandon ship before we're forced to walk the plank !!
later guys, p8.
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I hope CT2 and AV8 suceed
There is a huge VFR market from the North to SA. Younger readers may not remember that SAA served MAN with a B747 until a few years ago but like QANTAS made (IMHO) a grave error pulling off the route.
Yes northern pax will trudge down to London by shuttle train or car but not in the numberrs that used to want to commence their journey from Ringway
I understand many peoples sentiments that the number of stops along the way is less of a problem than having to change planes.
Thats why BA/QuaintAS shrunk the MAN market by 30% in the first year the 747 did'nt carry on from LHR.
The local interest in MAN - CPT is building but as usual getting the message across that the service is available is the trick.
A family friend has booked to go LH via FRA because niether he nor his family in SA knew about the service.
Like any new starter its gaining that critical mass to continue thats important. I for one wish them well
Sir George Cayley
Yes northern pax will trudge down to London by shuttle train or car but not in the numberrs that used to want to commence their journey from Ringway
I understand many peoples sentiments that the number of stops along the way is less of a problem than having to change planes.
Thats why BA/QuaintAS shrunk the MAN market by 30% in the first year the 747 did'nt carry on from LHR.
The local interest in MAN - CPT is building but as usual getting the message across that the service is available is the trick.
A family friend has booked to go LH via FRA because niether he nor his family in SA knew about the service.
Like any new starter its gaining that critical mass to continue thats important. I for one wish them well
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Excel Aviation
Its a well known fact...Excel Aviation have a reputation for softening up the reputation of the competition before crapping on them alltogther ....surely you cant forget Goldcrest before Excel.... same old story..cats getting fatter...airlines used as fodder..
I hope that this is not the case with AV8.. but Excel certainly played a part in screwing European!
Lets hope Im wrong
I hope that this is not the case with AV8.. but Excel certainly played a part in screwing European!
Lets hope Im wrong
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I've just heard from a friend/crew member at AV8 that course 4 ,who started training in January I think, have been made redundant. As far as I am aware course 4 have not operated any flights yet and have been given 1 week's notice. I hope that this does not turn out to be true, but I believe my source to be reliable. Has anyone else heard this? Nearly forgot to add - the rest of the crew have been told that there jobs are safe.
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av8air
No you guys are not wrong AV8 will no longer exist
This is difficult to accept especially after all the hard work devoted to the airline from some tremendous people
It's a shame BIG shame
I will not say any more amid fear of legal action but it is not right what's happened and the people to blame (not AV8 personal) know who they are and I hope they can sleep at night!
R.I.P AV8 and all the brill people who worked for them
Another sad day for aviation
This is difficult to accept especially after all the hard work devoted to the airline from some tremendous people
It's a shame BIG shame
I will not say any more amid fear of legal action but it is not right what's happened and the people to blame (not AV8 personal) know who they are and I hope they can sleep at night!
R.I.P AV8 and all the brill people who worked for them
Another sad day for aviation
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Aviation is a nasty business to be in. When it's good it's great but when it's bad, well don't take on any long term financial commitments.
Good luck to all at AV8 & European. I'm sure there are plenty of airlines out there who would welcome your experience with open arms. And for all the doom-mongers - there but for the grace of God!
Good luck to all at AV8 & European. I'm sure there are plenty of airlines out there who would welcome your experience with open arms. And for all the doom-mongers - there but for the grace of God!
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According to insiders AV8 will cease trying to get directly into the air on the 7th of april...seems that after having not managed to operate their own flights CT2 got pissed off and pulled the plug...the Iceland air flights will continue as before....as AV8 have been operating with their flight numbers for a while now...not sure how long for?