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Old 5th Jan 2004, 15:46
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munich incident

has any body head of a fokker landing short at MUC this morning..1 person slightly injured..no mention on any wire services
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Apparently an Austrian Airlines FK70, no serious injuries reported (according to bild.de)
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It seems to be an Austrian Airlines F70, the crew is supposed to have reported engine problems.
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I just posted on it. It's headlined 'Nice work!'. I should have been a little clearer.
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Yes I did:

we are talking about a Fokker 70 from Austrian with 35 people on board. The plane was bound for MUC and reported engine problems during approach. the crew did not manage to reach RWY 2L and made a crash landing on a field 2 kilometers from the threshould. according to reports from MUC rescue staff there was only one person with minor injurues. The whole thing happened 08:30 LT.
I am working for Munich Airport Authority and will update the thread as soon as further valid information is available.
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Red face

Heard it 5 minutes ago on the radio - At about 08:20 CET a Fokker 70 of Austrian Airlines landed short of the runway in an open field. 32 pax / 5 crew on board. 1 pax sustained minor injuries, according to the police.
Not much more infos yet.

For more infos check http://www.derstandard.at or http://www.kurier.at (both in german)
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Here's my original post from Reuters. I'll delete my previous thread so we don't have two running on the same incident. As I said, looks like great work by the crew.


Austrian jet makes emergency landing in German field

BERLIN, Jan 5 (Reuters) - A passenger jet has made an emergency landing in a field near Munich airport after the pilot reported problems with one of the engines, police said on Monday. No one was hurt.
The Fokker 70 plane carrying around 30 passengers landed between two and three km short of Munich airport, a police spokesman said. An airport spokesman said the plane belonged to Austrian Airlines <AUAV.VI>.
The spokesman for the airport said there were no injuries. "It is looking very, very good -- no dead, no injured." One person was suffering from shock, he added.
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Hellraiser,

Was this on approach to MUC (EDDM), as I'm "quite" sure they don't have a 02L there?

You sure you work for the Authority?
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Only parallel 08/26, last time I was there.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 17:41
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a320driver,

yes, I am quite sure - since 11 years.

And the rwy was 26L of course.
According to newest information, the crew declared an emergency during approach due to icing on both engines and then crash-landed on an open field.
due to heavy snowfall the emergecy-respone-forces took a while to locate the aircraft. the passengers were evacuated with 4-WD (as the field is quite muddy) to the next road and then by bus to the airports care team.
considered that we have (and had) heavy snowfall, there are some farmhouses and a lot of powerlines in the area, the crew did a perfect job.
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Hellraiser, no offence meant and in any case, I offer my apology.

The engine icing problem you mention is interesting as well as frightening... would be good to see if other aircraft reported any ice encounters in the area as the type of icing mentioned must be pretty severe.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 18:05
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a320 driver,

no apologies needed, as it was my fault...

Sure - I will do some research on "icy"pilot reports.

BTW:
after waiting a while for emergency response, the captain gave his exact coordinates to MUC Tower. the rescue team then managed to locate the plane by GPS.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 18:06
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A picture can be found here
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Here some more pictures and a report (german language)http://www.reuters.de/newsPackageArt...7&section=news
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According to Austrian news reports the pilots were not able to lower the gear...

http://www.orf.at/040105-69380/index.html
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According to Austrian news reports the pilots were not able to lower the gear...

That cannot be correct, Europilot as there is a picture of the ripped off undercarriage on the Reuters website.. regards clive.
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No offence Superspotter, but I think you may be taking the meaning of the term 'unable to lower the gear' a bit too literally. It is quite possible that all the wheels and goolies were dangling merrily beneath the airframe, just not in a 'locked' state, hence not as any pilot would be happy to call 'lowered'. Whether or not that was actually the case is still open for speculation.
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Fokker icing problems

I wonder if this icing problem might be a persistent one for Fokkers...
I was in Skopije (FYRM) when on 05 March '93 a brand new F100 (about 200 h on the log) of Palair Macedonian crashed immediately after t/o in heavy snowfall. 97 fatalities, 5 survivors.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 21:50
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http://www.kurier.at/chronik/491243.php
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 22:00
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My inquiries with the local ATC at MUC did not reveal any other case of engine or other icing problems in todays operation.

BTW:
After the arrival of an Austrian Delegation, the plane ist just being recovered from the field and to be brought to MUC for further inspection.
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