Dangerous 747 Operation
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Boss Raptor, Okada Air B727 5N-EDO, I'd like to see that one with 420 pax!!
I'm sure you meant this one: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true
I'm sure you meant this one: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true
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Boss Raptor: You may be deficient in International Law and International Protocol when you suggest that the American FAA somehow has jurisdiction over a foreign owned and foreign registered airplane in a foreign country. Let me ask you: Under what U.S. Federal rules and under which U.S. Federal regulations could an FAA inspector even board, much less stop the airplane?
There is FAR Part 129 which governs foreign air carriers:
FAR 129.1... "a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, this part prescribes rules governing the operation within the United States of each foreign air carrier holding a permit issued by the Civil Aeronautics Board or the Department of Transportation under section 402 of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 (49 U.S.C. 1372) or other appropriate economic or exemption authority issued by the Civil Aeronautics Board or the Department of Transportation.
"(b) Sections 129.14 and 129.20 also apply to U.S.-registered aircraft operated in common carriage by a foreign person or foreign air carrier solely outside the United States. For the purpose of this part, a foreign person is any person, not a citizen for the United States, who operates a U.S.-registered aircraft in common carriage solely outside the United States."
The only authority is given to U.S. registered aircraft in the case of foreign operators in foreign lands.
The Saudi DCA has jurisdiction in the Kingdom over this B747, 3D-BOX.
There is FAR Part 129 which governs foreign air carriers:
FAR 129.1... "a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, this part prescribes rules governing the operation within the United States of each foreign air carrier holding a permit issued by the Civil Aeronautics Board or the Department of Transportation under section 402 of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 (49 U.S.C. 1372) or other appropriate economic or exemption authority issued by the Civil Aeronautics Board or the Department of Transportation.
"(b) Sections 129.14 and 129.20 also apply to U.S.-registered aircraft operated in common carriage by a foreign person or foreign air carrier solely outside the United States. For the purpose of this part, a foreign person is any person, not a citizen for the United States, who operates a U.S.-registered aircraft in common carriage solely outside the United States."
The only authority is given to U.S. registered aircraft in the case of foreign operators in foreign lands.
The Saudi DCA has jurisdiction in the Kingdom over this B747, 3D-BOX.
Glueball,
The Saudi Presidency of Civil Aviation has a long-term memorandum of agreement with the FAA. As such the FAA have a lot of clout in Saudi and there would be nothing stopping them from getting a PCA representative to accompany them on a ramp check.
B747Plumber.
Forward your complaint and EVIDENCE to:
[email protected]
or
Captain Mohd Berenji at the PCA. (email [email protected] and ask for his contact details)
or, if the aircraft is operating for Saudia.
[email protected]
Good Luck.
Mutt.
The Saudi Presidency of Civil Aviation has a long-term memorandum of agreement with the FAA. As such the FAA have a lot of clout in Saudi and there would be nothing stopping them from getting a PCA representative to accompany them on a ramp check.
B747Plumber.
Forward your complaint and EVIDENCE to:
[email protected]
or
Captain Mohd Berenji at the PCA. (email [email protected] and ask for his contact details)
or, if the aircraft is operating for Saudia.
[email protected]
Good Luck.
Mutt.
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Thank you Mutt...
Saves me having to re-iterate the direction of my two previous posts for Glueball a third time
'Glueball as I stated FAA carries out safety oversight on contract to Saudi DCA, this function is co-ordinated from FAA Intl. Field Office JFK, confirmed and detailed in the links posted above.
As such Saudi DCA (FAA) will jump the aircraft in JED which they are entitled to do and FAA IFO JFK are a good course of communication for someone in the USA'
Saves me having to re-iterate the direction of my two previous posts for Glueball a third time
'Glueball as I stated FAA carries out safety oversight on contract to Saudi DCA, this function is co-ordinated from FAA Intl. Field Office JFK, confirmed and detailed in the links posted above.
As such Saudi DCA (FAA) will jump the aircraft in JED which they are entitled to do and FAA IFO JFK are a good course of communication for someone in the USA'
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DANGEROUS 747 OPERATION
DEAR PLUMBER:
THIS ALLEGATIONS ARE VERY SERIOUS. I WONDER HOW YOU CAME ABOUT THIS INFORMATION? IS IT FROM A VALID SOURCE? IT SOUNDS VERY DETAILED, I IMAGINE YOU EITHER HAVE SOMEONE ON THE INSIDE OR YOU WORK FOR THEM. ADDITIONALLY, DO YOU HAVE PROOF OF ALL THIS IN YOUR POSSESION?
JUST WONDERING.. YOU WILL NEED ALL THIS INFORMATION TO FOLLOW IT WITH THE CIVIL AVIATIONS OF ALL THREE COUNTRIES THAT YOU ADVISED.
ADDITIONALLY COULD YOU LET US KNOW THE NAMES OF THE FLIGHT DECK THAT ARE FLYING WITHOUT BEING CURRENT? I THINK WE ALL WANT TO KNOW..
GOOD LUCK!!!
THIS ALLEGATIONS ARE VERY SERIOUS. I WONDER HOW YOU CAME ABOUT THIS INFORMATION? IS IT FROM A VALID SOURCE? IT SOUNDS VERY DETAILED, I IMAGINE YOU EITHER HAVE SOMEONE ON THE INSIDE OR YOU WORK FOR THEM. ADDITIONALLY, DO YOU HAVE PROOF OF ALL THIS IN YOUR POSSESION?
JUST WONDERING.. YOU WILL NEED ALL THIS INFORMATION TO FOLLOW IT WITH THE CIVIL AVIATIONS OF ALL THREE COUNTRIES THAT YOU ADVISED.
ADDITIONALLY COULD YOU LET US KNOW THE NAMES OF THE FLIGHT DECK THAT ARE FLYING WITHOUT BEING CURRENT? I THINK WE ALL WANT TO KNOW..
GOOD LUCK!!!
FAT ?!
