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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:16
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From airdisaster.com.....


Two jet aircraft have collided with each of the twin towers in New York City at World Trade Center. Shortly thereafter, a large passenger aircraft impacted the Pentagon building in Washington, D.C. Another aircraft has crashed in south-eastern Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh.

At approximately 10:07am et, one tower of the World Trade Center has just collapsed to the ground. At 10:27, the second tower collapsed.

The following aircraft are reportedly involved in today's terrorist attack:

American Airlines Boeing 767-200 (Flight 11)
Boston, Massachusetts to Los Angeles, California
92 passengers and crew reported aboard.
Impacted the south tower of the World Trade Center in New York City.

United Airlines Boeing 767-200 (Flight 175)
Boston, Massachusetts to Los Angeles, California
65 passengers and crew reported aboard.
Impacted the north tower of the World Trade Center 18 minutes after the first crash.

American Airlines Boeing 757-200 (Flight 77)
Washington, D.C. (Dulles) to Los Angeles, California
64 passengers and crew reported aboard.
Crashed into the Pentagon building in Washington, D.C.

United Airlines Boeing 757-200 (Flight 93)
Newark, New Jersey to San Francisco, California
45 passengers and crew reported aboard.
Crashed in south-eastern Pennsylvania, 80 miles south-east of Pittsburgh.

Early reports indicate that at least 10,000 people were killed in the collapse of the World Trade Center towers in New York City.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:35
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Unbelievable. Terrifying. Horrific.....

What words can describe the carnage unleashed upon the innocent people who have so undeservedly lost their lives in these unparalled acts of Terrorism today.

No words or actions can undo the terrible events that have unfolded before our eyes today.

My thoughts, prayers and condolences go to the families and colleagues of everyone so terribly affected by these actions. Their lives will never be the same and I truly share your loss. To our friends and colleagues at United Airlines and American Airlines, I cannot express my emotions as I watched the horrifying events unfold this morning. These events are almost unimaginable, yet we were witness to it today, the 11 Septemeber 2001, another day that will live in infamy.

Before anyone rushes to assign blame and identify the "only" organizations that could accomplish an act like this, remember that a terrorist enemy can originate from anywhere, including from within. Please do not let this thread to become an unbalanced rush to judgement at this early juncture.

There will be a time for action, and when it arrives, the remedy should be decisive and resolute.

My thoughts and prayers to everyone involved on the ground in the aftermath and also all members of the military who may find themselves embroiled in the fight and defence of freedom.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:42
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One one hand it's hard to believe what we are hearing and seeing on the news ... On the other hand it seems like a case of "just a matter of time" before something of this magnitude happened ... so well orchestrated, merticulously executed, devastatingly effective ... FBI, CIA, et al probably don't know what hit them ... so sad.

My heartfelt thoughts go out the hundreds (if not thousands) who will have died in this tragic act of terrorism.

FAA ground stop is being reported to be in effect until noon tomorrow.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:43
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Wintson Smith:

Are you as insane and crazy as the terrorist?

Are you saying in your post that the innocent
victims in todays horrors deserve it?

Please clarify.

If indeed your posting reflects your true attitude and beliefs, you are a sick person and should be dealt with accordingly.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:48
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I'm sure I speak for all UK airline pilots........

God be with those affected in the US today.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:50
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Winston that was a very insensitive and callous post. Whatever the politics of it this is not the time and the place.

I think LCY may be closed now, the skies here in South London are eerily quiet tonight. Today the biggest story was going to be the Concorde test flight. I remember what a shocking event that the Concorde crash was at the time. Today's events were a thousand times more shocking, I still can't believe what I have seen.

This was an act of war. It is significant that all the flights involved were internal - surely targetted because of the relaxed security.

As for the perpetrators, well it's likely to be the Saudi dissident in Afghanistan, but what about Saddam? He could be behind this, and have been planning it for years as a revenge for the Gulf War.

My thoughts and prayers to all affected by this terrible human catastrophe, the like of which we have never seen.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:51
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:52
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4 hijackings at the same time in continental US. definitely not good for US airline security or complicities are involved.
Shall we put sheriffs/security personel in all airplanes like in the ole time or El Al ?
also, did the hijickers have piloting skills ? this must be a real possibility in such a high level operation. Note that the two aircraft involved for WTC were both 767, same type ! maybe they should screen all arab pilots with 757 and 767 ratings.
Is Saddam Hussein behind this again ?
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 22:57
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WhatsaLizad, I agree.

The food I ate between 1940 and 1945 and the liberty I have enjoyed since I have owed largely to the United States and Americans; not to the Third Reich, not to the USSR, not to the PRC.

God Bless America.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:08
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WhatsaLizad?,
We have done more for this world than any other in human history.
It might be an educative experience for you to investigate how your country is perceived by a non-negligible number of people, especially outside of the western world. - Please note that while I like the USA as a country and its people very much, I'm feeling a bit alienated by its foreign politics.


TowerDog,

what the hell are you imputing to me? I simply tried to offer an explanation as to why such a terrible thing had to happen sooner or later.

I consider your allegation that I condoned this disaster in anyway to be slanderous. Please clarify.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:16
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In all honesty, dear PPruNe members, I don't think this is a time for some American-bashing that I've noticed. In this instance, I take it as a personal offence.

A terrible tragedy has happened -- four airliners have crashed within minutes -- the pilots, the crew and the passengers are all dead. May they rest in peace. But, thanks to whom?

By the way, commercial airline pilot Tim Timmerman, looking out his Arlington, VA, apartment definitely saw an AA or UA B757 crashing into the Pentagon.


To an unworldly bunch of idiots who think that they will eventually rule the world with their pre-fundamentalist thinking in a country called Afghanistan and call themselves Taliban.

If I were Bush, I'd have the F-18s and others ready tonight to wipe Afghanistan off the earth by tomorrow morning. Remember Reagan when when Libya's Quadfi gave him problems. Bomb the sh*t out of him.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:20
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'On eagles' wings I bore You
And brought You unto Myself'

God have mercy..RIP.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:29
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LatviaCalling,

judging from most of your previous posts, I would have expected a much more reasonable reaction.

It's exactly that kind of attitude which breeds the hatred we are now witnessing.


And something which I find much more disheartening about this thread:

Why is it that muslim groups are immediately accused without any hard evidence? When a "normal" aviation catastrophe happens, most of us pilots get upset if the media are quick to announce the cause of the disaster before any serious investigation has been launched.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:30
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Winston:

Well, if you don't understand, go back and read your own post again.

If you still stand by it, and if that is your true feelings, I'll stand by my reply.

Now, this is not meant to be the typical PPRuNe slagging and personal attack, todays tragedy goes way beyond that.

Being an AA pilot that lost many collegues and customers this morning, and being a shocked US Citizen, I am not taking lightly any **** from somebody saying the US is a bully and should excpect no better.

Todays events was an attack on civilization and humanity.

If somebody wants to get to the US Government and their policies, foreign or domestic, go and complain to the UN, NATO, The Human Rights organiztions, whatever, but not this.

Somebody just decleared war in the same sneaky, cowardly way the japs did in 1941.
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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:42
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An atrocity of unbelievable proportions. This is not just an attack on America, but on democracy.
My thoughts and prayers are with the crews and all those innocent people who have been killed or maimed, and with the families who have lost loved ones.
God bless all our American colleagues and friends.

Winston Smith of "Krautland":
I was sad to read Boeingboy's tasteless comment, and hoped none of our American colleagues thought Sky9's "We in the UK" remark reflected thinking in the UK.
Those feelings pale into insignificance compared with my reaction to your contributions. You, and your contributions, are both beneath contempt.

Hundreds, probably thousands, of innocent people have been killed or maimed today. Thousands of people are grieving, or worried sick not yet knowing whether their loved ones are dead or alive. This is not the time for America bashing.
Please, if you must, take your thoughtless, twisted comments to JetBlast, and leave this thread to decent people.

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Old 11th Sep 2001, 23:54
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C'mon guys ... take a deep breath and chill out. This is no time to lose ya cool and start a slinging match on the BB. Stay professional dudes.

Makes you wonder if a concept should be taken out of 'Star Trek' and aircraft controls and systems have 'lock-out' codes and commands to prevent unauthorised access in such situations. Remote flight control through Mode S???
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Old 12th Sep 2001, 00:02
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Winston Smith,

As I said in my earlier post, this is not the time to get into America bashing, which seems to have become a great pasttime on this site.

Who the h**l do you think ordered up this call where two AA and two UA planes crashed -- The National Democratic Party of the United States. Get serious man.

Despite my pen-name of LatviaCalling, I've never made any bones about me being an ex-pat American living in Latvia.

I can certainly cite reams and reams of copy of Germany's problems with Turks, Kurds, Yugoslavs, Kosovos and Serbs, than you can about the United States.

But, that's not the point. A major disaster initiated by a foreign power or powers to be has happened in the United States. The country is mourning and believe me, if you have any feeling whatsovere for human beings, this is not the time to stick the needle in to the bone.

I don't even know why it's worth posting on this site with all you arse *oles around that can't even carry on a logical conversation.

Tell me, do you regret the downing of the four planes, or do you rejoice. I need a yes or no!
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Winston Smith - there are no excuses for your comments at this time.
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Leave it Winston, you can’t possibly make them understand in that state of mind.

But yes for any terrorist act, The Muslim is guilty unless proven innocent.

A very sad day.
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After hearing the news on the radio this morning, I cried for the dead.
After watching the planes fly into the buildings, I cried again.
After hearing that a flight attendant on one of planes called on a cell phone and described being hijacked and the crewmembers being stabbed to death, I cried again.
After watching people jump from 100 floors up to avoid the fire, I cried again.
After hearing that the death toll may be higher than the entire Viet Nam war, I cried again.
Then I had to watch the Palistinians dancing in the streets, handing out candy to the children, celebrating the attack. Americans will come together as never before.
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