easyCommands at EasyJet!!!
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easyCommands at EasyJet!!!
Come on down folks, anyone got a licence, here is a copy of the latest from LalaLand, strangely enough, not published internally but distributed to the chosen few by email.
To quote:
"Are you B737 or A319/320/321 rated?
Are you tired of waiting for a position in the left hand seat?
Are you an experienced jet First Officer and number 130 on the seniority??
If your answer is yes then keep reading. As part of a new initiative easyjet is looking to take on experienced First Officers and offer them a Direct Entry Command position on our aircraft. We are looking for pilots with a minimum of 3000 hours total time and at least 500 hours (both factorised) currently on type (B737 or A319/320/321).
To launch this new initiative and to celebrate the fact that we are soon to open new bases on the continent (location to be announced), we are organising a roadshow in September and the details are as followed:
Thursday 4th September 2003
Time: 1400-1800
Venue: SAS Radisson Hotel, Manchester Airport, Chicago Avenue, Manchester
You will be able to meet our recruitment team and get the latest information about our recruitment for the forthcoming year. We look forward to seeing some of you there and to answering any questions you may have."
Frightening isn't it, just 500 hours on type and off you go!
Also excellent for morale amongst the existing troops, whose faces just doen't fit!
To quote:
"Are you B737 or A319/320/321 rated?
Are you tired of waiting for a position in the left hand seat?
Are you an experienced jet First Officer and number 130 on the seniority??
If your answer is yes then keep reading. As part of a new initiative easyjet is looking to take on experienced First Officers and offer them a Direct Entry Command position on our aircraft. We are looking for pilots with a minimum of 3000 hours total time and at least 500 hours (both factorised) currently on type (B737 or A319/320/321).
To launch this new initiative and to celebrate the fact that we are soon to open new bases on the continent (location to be announced), we are organising a roadshow in September and the details are as followed:
Thursday 4th September 2003
Time: 1400-1800
Venue: SAS Radisson Hotel, Manchester Airport, Chicago Avenue, Manchester
You will be able to meet our recruitment team and get the latest information about our recruitment for the forthcoming year. We look forward to seeing some of you there and to answering any questions you may have."
Frightening isn't it, just 500 hours on type and off you go!
Also excellent for morale amongst the existing troops, whose faces just doen't fit!
Ut Sementem Feeceris
"strangely enough, not published internally but distributed to the chosen few by email."
.......but advertised in Flight International with half page adverts for the last two weeks............
.......but advertised in Flight International with half page adverts for the last two weeks............
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A4, your'e close, in the adverts there are 4 small but very significant digits missing from the Flight ad, B 7 3 7 , only to be found in the email.
Probably designed so to delay the impending riot that will ensue at easyland.
Probably designed so to delay the impending riot that will ensue at easyland.
Controversial, moi?
So what is the beef?
I changed types when I gained my command so had 0 hours on type although my total hours were quite high.
I can't quite understand the point being made. Also who was the alleged e-mail sent to?
I changed types when I gained my command so had 0 hours on type although my total hours were quite high.
I can't quite understand the point being made. Also who was the alleged e-mail sent to?
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I think various points are being made.
a. The comparitively low hours required ie. the 3000 to maybe include the 500 on type.
b. Many poeople already at easy with in excess of these requirements, but being held back for whatever reasons, but will welcome outsiders who appear with no track record or history.
c. The choice of venue, curiously chosen to be convenient to My Travel, Airtours etc Bus drivers.
All the above measures designed after all to put bums on seats, presumably to replace the recent resignations from both seats, with trails left pointing to Now, Dragonair etc.
PS The "alledged emails" are fact, not fiction. A mate received 8 identical ones. They cannot even manage to send email correctly!
a. The comparitively low hours required ie. the 3000 to maybe include the 500 on type.
b. Many poeople already at easy with in excess of these requirements, but being held back for whatever reasons, but will welcome outsiders who appear with no track record or history.
c. The choice of venue, curiously chosen to be convenient to My Travel, Airtours etc Bus drivers.
All the above measures designed after all to put bums on seats, presumably to replace the recent resignations from both seats, with trails left pointing to Now, Dragonair etc.
PS The "alledged emails" are fact, not fiction. A mate received 8 identical ones. They cannot even manage to send email correctly!
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Pilot Open Day - Paris
They are certainly going for it.
16 Sept at the Renaissance Hotel, Paris La Defence as well.
The question is how many will jump ship to join the merry band ??
16 Sept at the Renaissance Hotel, Paris La Defence as well.
The question is how many will jump ship to join the merry band ??
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The sad thing is that they probably have a substantial pool of the type of people they need sitting in their recruitment database. At the last LHR roadshow they admitted to having an unfiltered 10000 applications and just one full time processor.
I did receive a positive pm from them when I raised this on PPRuNe, to the effect that they were on the case, but I wonder if anything has actually been done?
Confundemus (12000 hours + wrong type ratings = no job)
I did receive a positive pm from them when I raised this on PPRuNe, to the effect that they were on the case, but I wonder if anything has actually been done?
Confundemus (12000 hours + wrong type ratings = no job)
Controversial, moi?
I think various points are being made.
a. The comparitively low hours required ie. the 3000 to maybe include the 500 on type.
b. Many poeople already at easy with in excess of these requirements, but being held back for whatever reasons, but will welcome outsiders who appear with no track record or history.
c. The choice of venue, curiously chosen to be convenient to My Travel, Airtours etc Bus drivers.
All the above measures designed after all to put bums on seats, presumably to replace the recent resignations from both seats, with trails left pointing to Now, Dragonair etc.
PS The "alledged emails" are fact, not fiction. A mate received 8 identical ones. They cannot even manage to send email correctly!
a. The comparitively low hours required ie. the 3000 to maybe include the 500 on type.
b. Many poeople already at easy with in excess of these requirements, but being held back for whatever reasons, but will welcome outsiders who appear with no track record or history.
c. The choice of venue, curiously chosen to be convenient to My Travel, Airtours etc Bus drivers.
All the above measures designed after all to put bums on seats, presumably to replace the recent resignations from both seats, with trails left pointing to Now, Dragonair etc.
PS The "alledged emails" are fact, not fiction. A mate received 8 identical ones. They cannot even manage to send email correctly!
b) Could you define 'many' and explain what the advantage would be to train an outsider compared to an incumbent?
c) Would seem sensible.
Regarding the alleged (note spelling) e-mails where did all the e-mail addresses come from?
Still don't understand the gripe.
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Actually, I don't think it is that low ! They want 3000 factorised hours. Any FO's in other airlines will have all their jet hours reduced by 20%, and any other hours by possibly more.
I have 3700 hrs, am almost at my company min of 4000 hrs reqd for a command, yet because I have 2000 light aircraft hours my easyjet factorised hours - 1960 - I am short of the mark, and quite rightly so.
I have 3700 hrs, am almost at my company min of 4000 hrs reqd for a command, yet because I have 2000 light aircraft hours my easyjet factorised hours - 1960 - I am short of the mark, and quite rightly so.
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I applied to Easyjet some time ago and was sent an e-mail with available interview dates. For various reasons I couldn't go at that time. Does anyone know if my details will still be on the easy database and is there a way to update them (hours etc) without going through the whole application process again?
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Who knows what this weeks plan is in the orange treehouse? It seems possible these days for ex prop drivers to acquire Boeing commands with less than 500hrs on type so what's the big deal about pre type-rated guys?
I'm sure there's plenty of airbus people out there who have already applied and meet these criteria. The recruitment department just hasn't got its finger on the pulse (yet?)
I'm sure there's plenty of airbus people out there who have already applied and meet these criteria. The recruitment department just hasn't got its finger on the pulse (yet?)
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bmi baby have already played this game by employing direct entry
captains from Maersk who do not meet minimum requirement as laid down in the Ops manual (Total hours requirement).
So you are not alone at easyland in the getting shafted for command stakes.
captains from Maersk who do not meet minimum requirement as laid down in the Ops manual (Total hours requirement).
So you are not alone at easyland in the getting shafted for command stakes.
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A few points...
The Boeing flying programme MUST continue whilst the bus is introduced. Therefore it is not possible to remove a whole heap of Captains & FO's from the fleet at the rate required in order to crew the bus when it arrives in March. The answer is Boeing contractors (for a short term need) and direct entry bus rated guys - SFO's and CP's. Company Boeing guys are then re-trained onto the bus at a controlled pace to allow both a/c to fly fully crewed.
Finally the bus is being introduced at LGW and then an as yet undecided new European base. It is nothing to do with easy not wanting to put guys onto the bus - if bloggs lives in LPL and the bus is not based at LPL then easy can't offer them a bus course unless they transfer to a bus base.
The Boeing flying programme MUST continue whilst the bus is introduced. Therefore it is not possible to remove a whole heap of Captains & FO's from the fleet at the rate required in order to crew the bus when it arrives in March. The answer is Boeing contractors (for a short term need) and direct entry bus rated guys - SFO's and CP's. Company Boeing guys are then re-trained onto the bus at a controlled pace to allow both a/c to fly fully crewed.
Finally the bus is being introduced at LGW and then an as yet undecided new European base. It is nothing to do with easy not wanting to put guys onto the bus - if bloggs lives in LPL and the bus is not based at LPL then easy can't offer them a bus course unless they transfer to a bus base.
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As everyone knows, it is not just as simple to get the hours and assume an automatic jump to the LHS. There are many potential slips along the way, and an FO is at the most vulnerable period of his career when he is awaiting his command. One slip in a base check (LPC/OPC) at this stage can be pretty disastrous and mean a couple of years more in the RHS. That is the same the world over and not just at easyJet.
These adverts seem to suggest that easyJet, for the obvious reasons of financial prudence and avoiding clogging up their already bulging training system, need to recruit current Airbus FOs to go straight into the LHS. I believe there is a precedent here in that it is exactly what happened in a number of cases with their 737s.
I cannot imagine that many current Airbus FOs with other companies would risk going to easyJet without the promise of an early command as an inducement. Suddenly an Airbus type rating with current experience has become a very saleable commodity, however frustrating that must be to the current 737 FOs at easyJet. There is no doubt that for FOs who are willing to take the risk of leaving their current company there are some great opportunities - or so it would appear!
These adverts seem to suggest that easyJet, for the obvious reasons of financial prudence and avoiding clogging up their already bulging training system, need to recruit current Airbus FOs to go straight into the LHS. I believe there is a precedent here in that it is exactly what happened in a number of cases with their 737s.
I cannot imagine that many current Airbus FOs with other companies would risk going to easyJet without the promise of an early command as an inducement. Suddenly an Airbus type rating with current experience has become a very saleable commodity, however frustrating that must be to the current 737 FOs at easyJet. There is no doubt that for FOs who are willing to take the risk of leaving their current company there are some great opportunities - or so it would appear!
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Having through the easy command process relatively recently I can assure all, they do not give commands away, they make it hard work for you and rightly so.
Many people fail the command selection process itself, once they have achieved at least the min requirements, often much more. People fail the command course itself, several have this year alone, so I reckon that whilst the advert and emails state the absolute minimum, you will find reality prevails and 99.99999% will have significantly more than the absolute minimum, anf if there is a 0.0001% who is at the minimum, this person will be exceptional.
Many people fail the command selection process itself, once they have achieved at least the min requirements, often much more. People fail the command course itself, several have this year alone, so I reckon that whilst the advert and emails state the absolute minimum, you will find reality prevails and 99.99999% will have significantly more than the absolute minimum, anf if there is a 0.0001% who is at the minimum, this person will be exceptional.
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I joined eaesyJet 6 years ago with a big group of other pilots, all of us having significant experience in the RH seat flying the 767 for a SE Asian airline, and all of us passed our commands. However the selection process was tough, I got a two hour technical grilling from the Chief Pilot and Chief Training Captain and there were many areas to slip up along the way, bearing in mind few of us had flown the 737 at that stage so it was training on type as well as the Command training. easyJet did not make it easy then for us, and no corners were cut just as they are not now.
The process took several months and each day is like another check of some form. Anyone thinking that it is a quick way to change seats will be sadly disappointed, and probably end up unemployed. However, for those that were in similar positions to us, it is a great opportunity and I would thoroughly recommend giving it a go.
The process took several months and each day is like another check of some form. Anyone thinking that it is a quick way to change seats will be sadly disappointed, and probably end up unemployed. However, for those that were in similar positions to us, it is a great opportunity and I would thoroughly recommend giving it a go.