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The most recent similar occurrence was at RAF Shawbury when a refresher student actually did the full shutdown drills on a 412 during a PFL and the instructor found himself heading for rural Shropshire with no engines.
A great effort to get both re-started in time to go around but something of a learning process for all involved. |
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11666385)
The most recent similar occurrence was at RAF Shawbury when a refresher student actually did the full shutdown drills on a 412 during a PFL and the instructor found himself heading for rural Shropshire with no engines.
A great effort to get both re-started in time to go around but something of a learning process for all involved. |
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11661965)
Must have just been shortcomings with Puma pilots then :E:), double speed select pulls were no problem for Wessex pilots:ok:
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Weren't all students ex-Wessex in those days since it was the training aircraft at Shawbury?
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The incident Crab refers to actually happened at Valley and only one engine was re-lit to allow a fly out. Good drills indeed by the captain but he nearly lost his job by how it all happened in the first place.
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Good point Myra, I had it in my mind it was Shawbury but given the QHI involved, Valley makes more sense.
It would have helped if he had reported in when he landed and signed in:) |
Ooooops! That would tax the stude a little...
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Originally Posted by VM325
(Post 11725409)
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Always happens on a Friday afternoon..............
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Throttle pull - or warp drive
When I was in charge of the Millennium Falcon, we used to always use live training when entering the asteroid zone at warp 9.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11725430)
Always happens on a Friday afternoon..............
A translator was in the back seat. "Shut down number two." Then it all went quiet as that had come over as shut down two engines" 105 not the easiest to restart from the left hand seat. Quick change of underwear and carry on. Round about 45 years ago. Where does the time go. |
I hear Helicentre have had another crash recently, this time one of their Cabri's. Anyone any more information?
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Originally Posted by ericferret
(Post 11750618)
I recall an instructional flight at Strubby where they were converting a non English speaking Spanish pilot to the 105.
A translator was in the back seat... |
Is it more to the fact that helicentre train so many students that from time to time accidents happen or is there something systemically wrong there ??
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Originally Posted by helispotter
(Post 11750891)
This example prompts me to ask what level of English proficiency pilots around the world are required to achieve given ATC communications internationally are all(?) in English.
I think it harks back to the Crossair accident in Zurich when they were hiring from all over and crews could not even communicate with each other! In non-English speaking countries ATC will communicate with "you" in English but obviously not everyone else which is interesting sometimes. |
Ned might have answered your own question there
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have a licence issued by an "English speaking" country your proficiency level needs to be endorsed on your licence. |
Mind you, what they speak in the deep south could hardly be called "English". |
Originally Posted by UpAndDownAndUpAndDow
(Post 11750656)
I hear Helicentre have had another crash recently, this time one of their Cabri's. Anyone any more information?
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