I see in the press today that as well as Bristow accepting their latest pay offer, Scotia pilots will be offered next week deals which mean that Captains can get pay increases of £21000 by May 2004 and co-pilots £10000 by the same date. However, Scotia has stated that this would mean some re-structuring in the company (another word for redundanciies?!)

Also with Bond now talking to oil companies, and manufacturers about aircraft, I expect that those that would be made redundant due to either these pay scale increases or contract losses will no doubt be sucked up by Bond at lower pay scales (and in a company that will no doubt have no BALPA or other union recognition!!)

[ 22 September 2001: Message edited by: BHPS ]

Chopperman--

Fair point, but I suspect they will stay for the absolute minimum time.

BHPS--

With most of Scotias pilots on 800 hours a year I don't see how they are going to be any redundancies. Maybe the restructuring will be closing the final salary pension scheme or other alteration.

My understanding is that this pay rise just puts Bristows pilots on the same scales as Scotia are at the moment i.e. pre-40% pay rise. If Scotia get the latter then the Bristows' pilots will be going straight back for more.

What's this I heard on Friday from one of our cc members about Scotia being offered 20% this year and 20% next year?

Ally 1987

True that may be the case at the moment, however, restructuring could also mean cutting back on other support staff such as engineers and admin, or even using Daily Rate Pilots a lot more so that the company then doesn't have to pay the pension contributions!

These are only posibilities though. As you say Scotia need the pilots at the moment to crew their their flights.

Ally 1987

Quite correct, the offer that Bristow aircrew have accepted is only to bring them up to the same salaries as Scotia pilots. I believe that Bristow has already started their bench-marking talks with the aim at getting something similar to Scotia.

QM

If that is the case I doubt Scotia aircrew will accept it as they wanted everying immediately. Unless there has been a change of feelings within the workforce, I doubt that they will accept it this time either. Don't know if the figures quoted in the press were correct though, judging as how badly the press have got the stories wrong in the recently, ie Bristow SAR crews walking out, etc!

Hi Gents,....can anyone confirm Pilot's acceptance of Bristow management's offer and how much? Down here in Australia we're hoping for 30-40% after negotiations next year. Anything that you guys achieve will help our cause. Already behind UK as far as income versus cost of living is concerned. Can anyone shed light on whether Scotia has been offered or accepted anything.

Yes Bristow have started benchmarking talks, a couple of Tuesday's ago (if gray cells serve me correctly). Our Chief cc member stated it made progress, but we all know how fluid things are at the moment.

Yes the press are notoriously inaccurate :D

From information received from Scotia, I was curious if a strike date has been set, as time would be running out from the last ballot!

The last ballot was not a strike ballot. That has still to be carried out and if memory serves me correctly, I think that the ballot is over a 4 week period. If the vote is to strike, then the company has to be given 6 weeks notice, including details of the action that will be taken, by law. That means the earliest Scotia will be striking (if it goes that far in the present atmosphere of pilot jobs in the fixed wing world becoming almost non-existent) is 2-3 months from now!!

BHPS, Thanks, I was curious about that!

CHC Scotia subsiduary
 

What’s happening in CHC Scotia subsidiaries, CHC Ireland and CHC Denmark. Have these pilots received similar pay offers? and if not why not?

Stikker - can you email me?

Got your message Stikker - just wanted to exchange a few notes. Email me when you can. Cheers.

outofbalance did you receive my email

Scotia Types
 

All you Scotia Types , what's happening ? Is no news good news?

We now have our our own forum on Yahoo.com so all our rantings can now be held in some privacy, but I can tell you that the feeling is very strong in favour of industrial action as the scotia management have refused to return to the negotiating table even after a personal invitation from Mr C dark BALPA Chairman to CHC's Mr S Allard.

Sell your shares in Brent oil before S--T hits the fan

why not give all scotia pilots access to this new site

Stikker,
The site was set up for Balpa members to air their views on the current dispute. Any Scotia pilot can take part if he/she is an association member. It's proving to be a very good forum.
Chopperman.

It is a shame that the rantings have to be in private but good luck to the Scotia guys& gals. It's about time the oil companies and the management team realised your true worth and sorted out those terms and conditions.

Chequesplease
Thankyou for your words of support.

I can asure you that the feelings of the large majority of pilots at scotia is one of anger that our managers are not taking us seriously.

we would prefer our resolve not to be tested but if it is then they will be very sorry indeed. :mad: