Hello No.1 ....so it's all systems go then. Even though this change appears not to take into account AIC 107/2000 (pink 14) from which I quote..

"Of the callsign confusion occurrences:
84% involved Numeric callsigns
10% involved Alphanumeric callsigns...."

"When allocating callsigns operators are requested to....

a) avoid using similar numerical callsigns within own company..

d) consider starting flight number elemment sequences with a higher number eg:6 and above

e) try to minimise use of callsigns involving four digits and, wherever possible, use no more than three digits..

I have said it before....if airlines such as British Airways, bmi British Midland, Brymon, British Regional etc,etc can all cope with having one number for ticketing/timetables/joe public and a different one for ATC why can't CHC Scotia?

Oh well, suppose one could adopt what our cousins over the pond do..... "Helibus Forty three, seventy six, cleared for take off..."

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Scotia management read an AIC? I doubt very much if they even know what they are.

Fair pay for Helicopter pilots,

Chopperman.

What do you expect when Operations is run by the Commercial department.

....and the first two off the production line are..... HKS4271 and HKS4281 - DOH!

Doing an ILS back to PD? Just repeat after me...

"QFE1005-1181-4344"

(Data Dad please note - I'm not advocating the dropping of the "decimal" in a frequency nor the company callsign!)

Hope we never go to 8.33 KHz spacing on the North Sea :eek:

I can't say that I agree with the changing of flight no's, but come on Max NG...what this cr*p about the non-handling pilot "operating the collective on offshore departures"....don't take the pi*s!!

Often there's mis-information...them there's complete boll*cks!


Happy Landings!!

First weekday of using these new callsigns and we've already had one heli responding to a fixed-wing's callsign, and one reading back the wrong heading (which happened to be the last three digits of his new callsign). I never had one readback "turning onto 23D". Why don't some of you rotorjocks point out Datadad's AIC to your management?
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Never Mr Gap - I asume u r a controller. Is it standard practice to MOR call sign confusions like this?

roundwego

If the callsigns are creating a potentially dangerous situation, then yes - we file reports, and in due course things should be changed for the better. Contrary to some beliefs we don't whinge about it because its different, it's because as ATCOs we know what has the potential to create confusion as. Unfortunately it can take a serious incident to occur (and the resultant paperwork) in order for a change to happen.

Just heard that with effect from tomorrow the company are reverting to alpha-numerics.

That was faster than I thought!

Scotia??
 

Well chaps what's happening then :confused: I hear your boss wants to wait until Friday for some reason? Anything to do with the Bristow vote ending then :D

As Scotia and Bristow management talk to each other every day as to how each other's negotiations are going on, I suspect that Scotia already know that the Bristow pay ballot is only to bring the Bristow pilots up to the same pay level that Scotia are presently at.

No doubt they are aware that Bristow has already started bench marking talks and that their pilot workforce could be at the same situation that Scotia are in within weeks.

Perhaps it might have something to do with the fact that Dobbins is selling a lot of his shares in CHC? Have a look at the Rotorhub website.

Hmmm, Interesting. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Scotia to offer 5% rise.
 

Is this true after all we have been hearing about 30-40% increases? What a cop out. :mad:

With 400 pilots from BA alone soon to flood the market - I would take the money and be grateful! :eek:

Oh yeah? And how many of them will have helicopter licences, be prepared to relocate to ABZ, and still be there in 12 months time?

QM

I see that the teletext pages are reporting that Bristows have settled and thus avoided a strike on the N sea. Somewhere between 7 to 19% can you shed any light on this ?? :eek:

Bristow have indeed agreed the latest pay offer. Agreed 62% vs 38% in favour.

I'm not sure how the rises figure all the way along the board, but the average Captain gets about 7 or 8 % with other SFO's etc getting up to about 11 or 12%. I don't know of anyone getting 19% !!!

Ally 1987,
I imagine that a few will have helicopter licences, especially those who left the north sea for pastures greener. I doubt if many will want to come back to Aberdeen, but when you have no job and the future looks bleak, then Aberdeen could look very attractive indeed.

Chopperman.

The pilots in England get pay rises as much as 19% because they did not get the Aberdeen Allowance before. As the Aberdeen Allowance is now gone, all pilots in Bristow are now on the same scales.