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Well done those people.
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Originally Posted by Red5ive
(Post 9733441)
Also
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...rmen-1.3042247 Strange that the Navy don't have many small ships to help out, like the HMS Ranger that was docked in Cork. |
Red5ive & BookwormPete
check marine traffic for HMS Ranger - now making her approach to Dublin currently off Bray Co. Wicklow. I think the reference to her was an example of small type Naval Craft |
Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 9729472)
Unless I missed it, no one has mentioned jackets inflating upon immersion, only a light illuminating and PLB's activating?
http://info.mcmurdogroup.com/rs/boat...udy%202014.pdf |
Originally Posted by BookwormPete
(Post 9734099)
... would probably require a load of diplomatic wrangling they didn't have time for0 ...
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Sadly.....it is a Recovery Operation now.
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UK SAR aircraft use Blacksod too. |
I'm not aware of specific jobs in the last couple of years but then they didn't exactly happen every week!
(Reports show there have been one long distance Atlantic job for each of Stornoway and Newquay since 2015 but a lot further north and south so they do not have a Irish stop as an option.) |
Just noticed Granuaile left Blackrock and headed to Galway.
A couple of days ago it was said they planned anther 72 hrs more with the ROV at Blackrock. Must have about done that. |
An extensive search around Blackrock Island off the Co Mayo coast has concluded without finding any trace of two missing Coast Guard crew members. Coast guard scales down search for Rescue 116 crew Must be so hard on the families. |
Search for missing crew of Rescue 116 The Air Accident Investigation Unit and An Garda Síochána in conjunction with Coast Guard have expressed their sincere appreciation to the Commissioners of Irish Lights (CIL) and Marine Institute who were supported by GSI (Geological Survey Office), for the extensive search conducted in the vicinity of Black Rock lighthouse following the tragic loss of Coast Guard helicopter Rescue 116 on March 14. The search operation conducted by the Marine Institute's Holland 1 ROV concluded this afternoon when the Granuaile departed Blacksod Bay. Supt. Tony Healy confirmed that the Garda water unit would conduct diving searches in the vicinity of Blackrock Light as soon as wind and tidal conditions are considered suitable. He also confirmed that he had requested Coast Guard and Civil Defence volunteers to continue with targeted searches of coastal areas and monitoring of specific areas of interest. Gerard O'Flynn from the Coast Guard thanked all the statutory and voluntary organisations for their unstinting support over the past four weeks, paying special thanks to Coast Guard, RNLI and Civil Defence volunteers and Defence Forces assets including naval divers, ships and Air Corps. He added that the operation highlighted the value of inter-agency cooperation in meeting challenges of this type. The Coast Guard also wishes to remind all mariners to keep a good lookout for any material associated with Rescue 116 and to report any findings to Malin Head Coast Guard Coordination Centre. AGS, AAIU and IRCG reiterated their sympathy to the families of Dara Fitzpatrick, Mark Duffy, Paul Ormsby and Ciaran Smith and expressed the hope that with the extensive monitoring both at sea and on shore that the remains of Paul and Ciaran would be found. |
Have they stopped retreival of the wreckage from around Blackrock as well?
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Originally Posted by cncpc
(Post 9735569)
Have they stopped retreival of the wreckage from around Blackrock as well?
The ROV will probably then go back to the Celtic Explorer. They charge €6k a day for it. https://www.marine.ie/Home/site-area...es?language=en |
Preliminary accident investigation report
Now that the recovery effort seems to have reached a point where it is winding down except for more targeted searches that will happen when needed, the investigators' preliminary report would seem to be the next milestone that will occur. Is there a legal requirement to produce a preliminary report within 30 days or is that just a guideline? I had expected some outcome from the CVR analysis by now.
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The Sligo and Shannon aircraft cover the west of Ireland for SAR.Very occasionally you will get UK military helicopters heading out to the Atlantic for "no reason" and stopping by Sligo, Shannon, or Blacksod for fuel. Have not seen it in quite a while though. The Sligo helicopter was called out to a grid reference a good number of years ago to do "nothing really". Was the most interesting job that year iirc. Those "no reasons" really are massive when they surface.
...oops.
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 9734952)
Does that still happen/has it happened under the new contract? Now the Irish CG have the same range as UK SAR (and the same aircraft) is there a need for UK assets to go across to W of Ireland or does it become a function of whose SRR the job is in?
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The sooner the AAIU publish something about this the better. The SAR (and wider aviation) community need to know how a modern, fully-serviceable helicopter complete with a highly experienced crew ended up at the bottom of the sea. The fact that the rearcrew are still missing is not only heartbreaking for the families but something from which lessons need to be learned quickly. My gut feeling is that this wasn't straightforward human error but a systemic failure with multiple contributory factors (as is often the case).
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Originally Posted by llamaman
(Post 9736542)
The sooner the AAIU publish something about this the better. The SAR (and wider aviation) community need to know how a modern, fully-serviceable helicopter complete with a highly experienced crew ended up at the bottom of the sea. The fact that the rearcrew are still missing is not only heartbreaking for the families but something from which lessons need to be learned quickly. My gut feeling is that this wasn't straightforward human error but a systemic failure with multiple contributory factors (as is often the case).
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Originally Posted by llamaman
(Post 9736542)
... need to know how a modern, fully-serviceable helicopter complete with a highly experienced crew ended up at the bottom of the sea ... this wasn't straightforward human error but a systemic failure with multiple contributory factors (as is often the case).
One of the purposes of the systems approach is to prevent, as much as is reasonably possible, a simple human error becoming catastrophic. Somewhere in the details, when published, will be some crucial lessons to learn and maybe some assumptions that need to be re-assessed. |
Originally Posted by llamaman
(Post 9736542)
The sooner the AAIU publish something about this the better. The SAR (and wider aviation) community need to know how a modern, fully-serviceable helicopter complete with a highly experienced crew ended up at the bottom of the sea. The fact that the rearcrew are still missing is not only heartbreaking for the families but something from which lessons need to be learned quickly. My gut feeling is that this wasn't straightforward human error but a systemic failure with multiple contributory factors (as is often the case).
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Life is not fair....the Sea is a very unforgiving place.
Yes, Closure is good and it tragic the families and friends of the two lost Missing Crewmen are having to go through this but One must be realistic. There has been a tremendous amount of searching going on in a very inhospitable environment. Fishermen, Sailors, and others who venture out all understand the risks and odds of this happening. The Accident Report will be written in time and the story will be told. As for the Missing Crewmembers....there is always hope no matter how slight that they will be found and the family achieve some closure in that regard. |
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