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timex 18th Mar 2011 17:32

No axe to grind just amazed at the decision making going on that has been so poorly thought through. No one disagrees with the rationality.

Phil Space 18th Mar 2011 17:39

In which case let me ask a question.

Silsoe Sid and his mate Coconutter are employed to fly police air ops.


Are they allowed in their contracts to post comments on here regarding police air ops?

Maybe I need to have a chat with a few chiefs and not the indians:ok:

timex 18th Mar 2011 17:42


Are they allowed in their contracts to post comments on here regarding police air ops?

I would be very surprised if Pprune is mentioned in any contracts..:ok:

(ISTR that trying to find someones's ID on here is frowned upon, also veiled threats)..

Phil Space 18th Mar 2011 17:47

But we all know where the main police air op posters work:ok:

I think Silsoe will back off if he worries about the chief.

Not a lot of work out there for old pilots.

timex 18th Mar 2011 17:49


But we all know where the main police air op posters work

I think Silsoe will back off if he worries about the chief.

Not a lot of work out there for old pilots.


Before it was banter, that post is wrong on so many levels. Can some of the Mods look into this guy?

J.A.F.O. 18th Mar 2011 17:57

Phil, you are a condescending prat.

I, too, am a private pilot and not employed by the police as a pilot. How dare you assume that you know a damn thing about me? You certainly don't know anything about air support.

I hope that yme is right and that no-one would listen to your supercilious drivel; you seem to have delusions of grandeur when even delusions of adequacy would be presumptuous.

At first I thought that you were odd yet entertaining and now I cherish my initial misconceptions as you are clearly an arrogant and bitter old imbecile whose outdated views, if they were ever worth anything at all, are now totally irrelevant.

Phil Space 18th Mar 2011 17:58

It's Ok for Silsoe to have a go at me but when the worm turns he and others back off.

Never mind banning me it's about time Cleveland Police and other police air ops were offered the right to reply.

We are talking about Cleveland Police here yet not a single right to reply from their Chief Constable?

Time to close the thread mods:ok:

SilsoeSid 18th Mar 2011 18:34

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”

Theodore Roosevelt
(something that Phil might remember from the Global Eagle thread)

SilsoeSid 18th Mar 2011 18:50

Who is backing off Phil ?;


You'll never know the fun of flying where when and how you want.
“When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all.”
Another from Theodore Roosevelt


Trust me Phil, I've had fun flying ... all over the World, and still do.
However, the difference between us is that I don't play at it as you seem to do :p

SilsoeSid 18th Mar 2011 19:00

Hold on chaps, Phil is about to tell us something else;

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...d/givedamn.gif

Wagging Finger 18th Mar 2011 20:17

What!!
 
First of all SS, fantastic quotes, the critic one has always been a particular favourite.:ok:

Now Phil, let me get this right;


Are they allowed in their contracts to post comments on here regarding police air ops?
followed by a very thinly veiled threat

Maybe I need to have a chat with a few chiefs and not the indians
:\

Then later;


Never mind banning me it's about time Cleveland Police and other police air ops were offered the right to reply
Now I don't want to drag myself into any gutters, but..........

How can you equate those comments, Police Officers are even more strongly 'Policed' (Pardon the pun) as to what they can and can't say in public.:suspect:

What do you advise Ministers on, which hymns are appropriate for this weekends service?

If I were you I would quit whilst your only a little behind and move on, nothing to see here:=

Coconutty 18th Mar 2011 21:00

Oh dear .....

I had promised myself not to waste any more time on you Fill,

BUT - You know little if NOTHING about me, such as my AGE,
or what I do for a living - as usual you have made your own mind up
about something and are once again WRONG.

Your "credentials" as an ex BBC reporter are of little relevance -
Air support has moved on a long way from the 80's and 90's,
and if you really ARE advising at Ministerial level, then that really does worry me :\
( and as a UK Taxpayer it means I'm paying YOUR wages ! :eek: )

You have brought and continue to bring NOTHING of value to this
or any of the other threads your have so arrogantly posted to.

It has been pointed out before that you are entitled to your opinions,
but you seem to have over-stated them now,
so perhaps it really is time for you to give up on whatever your real agenda is / was.

Feel free to carry on spouting your rubbish before the Mod's take action against you,
but it's not big and it's not clever to try and make veiled threats against people on here
who genuinely CARE about the topics they post on.

PLEASE do contact the "Chief" of whichever organisation you think anyone here may have breached their contract with -
Dont forget to send them a copy of all YOUR posts here and elsewhere, and see where it gets you - Bye Bye

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Coconutty.jpg

p.s. Oh, and just to correct you on yet another point - and to let you know that I really don't take you seriously -
I am definitely NOT the habitual drunkard you make me out to be.....
( It's not a habit - but that doesn't mean it never happens ;) )

SilsoeSid 18th Mar 2011 22:08

Phil,

For someone to wish redundancy on another shows how much of a low life you really are. However before the P45's start dropping through the letter box, you are still welcome to visit the unit, (Hand on heart time.., no grudges held.)

Senior Pilot 18th Mar 2011 22:17

Rather than slash and burn the last page or two, I am leaving the posts as an example of how not to let a thread run when I'm away for a few hours!

I think we've all had a fair response and got it out of our system, and suggest that we get back to the Thread topic instead of concentrating on what is essentially a trolling exercise.

SilsoeSid 18th Mar 2011 22:28

I'll be surprised if the Cleveland CC makes an appearance, bit like expecting Col Gadaffi to comment on the NFZ thread :rolleyes:

Have a good weekend all :ok:

props stopped 1st Apr 2011 09:11

New cop PPL's
 
According to some up at the ivory towers at Cleveland hq there is a lot of interest in this to save on the £2m per year unit running costs.

I wonder how long it will be before it reaches the UK, and will there be a national training course or an inhouse one?

How much does a MQ-1 Predator cost compared to the £5m EC135P2 and will the Home Office get a discount on another bulk purchase?

UAV trial shows non-pilots 'equally skilled', says RAF


UAV trial shows non-pilots 'equally skilled', says RAF

The UK Royal Air Force has completed a trial programme intended to assess the ability of non-pilots to fly unmanned air vehicles.
Dubbed Daedalus, the process "has successfully demonstrated that selection and training can generate remote pilots who, despite undergoing a different sort of training, are as highly trained and equally skilled as traditional pilots in that field", the RAF says.

The effort was intended to study the possibility of using candidates with no previous flying experience as a means of addressing any future shortfall in the availability of pilots for the UK's remotely piloted air systems (RPAS).

"The aim of the trial is to build a sustainable core of RPAS pilots, from non-airborne specialisations, which would increase the pool of pilots to fly these state-of-the-art aircraft," the air force says.
"The results of the project will determine the qualities required for future RPAS pilots."
The RAF had originally hoped that the graduates of its programme would be able to operate its General Atomics MQ-9 Reapers, a type now in use over Afghanistan. However, the US Air Force, which supported the final phases of their training at Creech AFB, Nevada, has restricted their crew approvals to working only with its smaller MQ-1 Predator .

"Now that the trial has come to a close, the four of us are looking forward to being able to contribute directly to current operations," says one of the group.
Identified as Flt Lt Dale, his previous position was as a provost officer with the RAF Police.

"Trial Daedalus clearly owes its success to the tremendous flexibility and sheer determination of all who have been involved," says course co-ordinator Sqn Ldr Tony Sumner. "Their journey has been unique and has required no small amount of hard work."

J.A.F.O. 1st Apr 2011 11:32

Nice try, props. :ok:

Fly_For_Fun 1st Apr 2011 13:55

About 18 mil US$

props stopped 1st Apr 2011 19:48

PFI purchase?
 
Pricey that!
I wonder if it was one of these others they are interested in?
Councillor McLuckie is a fan of PFI so never say never ;)

Certainly spoilt for choice from this lot, would you adam and eve how many there are!

Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) - Military Aircraft

I hear this one is very good, and has X-band automatic take off and landing system.

Watchkeeper Tactical UAV System - Army Technology

J.A.F.O. 1st Apr 2011 21:40

props, it's after midday, you're not supposed to carry it on after that.


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