Truck Driving beats Helicopter Flying for Career Potential
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Draco - Yorkie bars are for big boys!! Looks like the younger generation are getting more seniority.... hmmmm (SASless)Yorkie bars rarer than rocking horse **** in the U.K.
Imagine being in a hover and deciding wether to be in 3rd or 4th gear on a down hill approach to a set of trafic lights and a traffic police man pulls you over for an uneven load? could never imagine the traffic stop, but another pedal would just be infuriating, And just where would the gear stick go? Ala Mercedes on the dash or the standard GM confing.....Somewhere between the skids?
SASless :- M6 is a nightmare moterway on west side of uk from BHX to PIK ish (rough location)
Medicals in the U.Kare every 10yrs for the trucker and every year in Norway........ for truckers.......Hmmmmm and nearly most of all the truckers in the western part of Europe, have a stroke or a heart attack beacuse at max they are only going at is 60 mph (90 kmh) no wonder there are so many accidents relevant to HGV's. The drivers are falling asleep, watching tv and their newl fandangled GPS machines, which tke days to change in the numbers because they are travelling tragically slow!!
The only thing good about trucks is the fuel economy....easy!!
Handyandyuk :- if a trucker was on 60k then he must be working for B&Q and doing alot more drop offs than he should.
(Hypothetically)
And when in distress, pull over and go to an orange phone and wait for the rozzers
Imagine being in a hover and deciding wether to be in 3rd or 4th gear on a down hill approach to a set of trafic lights and a traffic police man pulls you over for an uneven load? could never imagine the traffic stop, but another pedal would just be infuriating, And just where would the gear stick go? Ala Mercedes on the dash or the standard GM confing.....Somewhere between the skids?
SASless :- M6 is a nightmare moterway on west side of uk from BHX to PIK ish (rough location)
Medicals in the U.Kare every 10yrs for the trucker and every year in Norway........ for truckers.......Hmmmmm and nearly most of all the truckers in the western part of Europe, have a stroke or a heart attack beacuse at max they are only going at is 60 mph (90 kmh) no wonder there are so many accidents relevant to HGV's. The drivers are falling asleep, watching tv and their newl fandangled GPS machines, which tke days to change in the numbers because they are travelling tragically slow!!
The only thing good about trucks is the fuel economy....easy!!
Handyandyuk :- if a trucker was on 60k then he must be working for B&Q and doing alot more drop offs than he should.
(Hypothetically)And when in distress, pull over and go to an orange phone and wait for the rozzers
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Ah, now gear shifting...deciding which gear is the correct one....my method was to keep grinding away....sooner or later it would fall into a hole (the gear lever!) and that would give me a reference point....if the engine lugged or died....then it was find something with a smaller number....if the engine overwound or came to bits....then either up a couple of numbers or use the "N" gear......figgered if I grind them long enough they would eventually become just like an autoshift. Must admit....more than a few times I got fairy flumoxed with an 18 speed....couldn't decide if I was in the lower half of the low end of the box...the normal part of the low end....or the upper end.....kept sliding my seat seeing if that helped. One day I forgot the clutch thing on the left....snatched the lever out of a gear slot....revved the engine like normal....and slick as nasal juices on a door knob....in the next gear it went......when talking about it....an old grizzled Chicken Hauller noted over his cuppa that I had floated the box. Not understanding that kind of rude talk....I retorted that I had merely forgot the clutch.....and had not been anywhere near water either! Since then....have gone straight...no one can call me a double clutching, gear jamming, fast lane cruising, hammer down MoJo....nope...pure finesse and grace this guy....saute'd scallops and fetticine in cream sauce and Chopin on the CD! Still gotta wear my cowboy boots, big ol' Stetson and license plate sized belt buckle, and wear my chain drive wallet....just to remind folks I am a real trucker. Still have not made it into the exalted ranks of being a Chicken Hauller however.
If you ride in the passing lane from Lizard Lick to Tucumcari in Georgia overdrive....you too might be a Chicken Hauller!
If you ride in the passing lane from Lizard Lick to Tucumcari in Georgia overdrive....you too might be a Chicken Hauller!
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You must have been a Mack driver then, Coz you can't do that in Mercedes EPS Truck...........European thing then
As for the water........have you released any recently.......Coz if it is llike your gear changes, i'd go to a doctor and get a bag (Automatic)
But I have always been more of a giblets man myself. Chickens stink........especially when they are alive..........they **** all over the place!!
As for the water........have you released any recently.......Coz if it is llike your gear changes, i'd go to a doctor and get a bag (Automatic)
But I have always been more of a giblets man myself. Chickens stink........especially when they are alive..........they **** all over the place!!
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Seal.....Godzilla himself cannot shift a Mack tranny unless the tranny wishes to be shifted.....had an air clutch, five speed gearbox, cabover (no air ride cab..no air ride seat...no air ride suspension) for yard shifting.....you ain't lived until you bleed the air off and kill the engine as you bump the dock in reverse gear! (with 8-10 tobacco chewing coverall wearing ....3 million milers watching!) Without the air built up...the clutch doesn't work...the gearbox won't shift.....you are solid against the dock....and at the point....flat out of experience, expertise, ideas, and ego simultaneously with a truck that isn't going anywhere soon!
Helicopter flying does hold some appeal at times!
Helicopter flying does hold some appeal at times!
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Well according to the volvo adverts, that was not the case
You sound like you are 105 and aging quickly, and i am out of experience and life expectancy
As for the water.....you must either have your own reservoir or your kideys hurt alot
LS
You sound like you are 105 and aging quickly, and i am out of experience and life expectancy
As for the water.....you must either have your own reservoir or your kideys hurt alot
LS
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Sorry, old chap, been there, done that got the oily T shirt and the flat cap, along with bruised knuckles when you neeed to change a wheel, If any of my past drivers ever let me down, because of action speaking louder than any words, I would jump into the cab and set of for parts of Germany that most other people never see, AFTER about fifty miles driving in the traffic here in the UK I then started to realise why I was called the boss, and all my men were called drivers, ... driving any HGV vehicle is the most mind numbing, brain chilling experience I could ever dream of, GIVE ME A CHOPPER any day,, I'll leave the HGVs to people like you, who seem to think they are romantic, and more than that they are bloody dangerous!!
Sorry, old chap, been there, done that got the oily T shirt and the flat cap, along with bruised knuckles when you neeed to change a wheel, If any of my past drivers ever let me down, because of action speaking louder than any words, I would jump into the cab and set of for parts of Germany that most other people never see, AFTER about fifty miles driving in the traffic here in the UK I then started to realise why I was called the boss, and all my men were called drivers, ... driving any HGV vehicle is the most mind numbing, brain chilling experience I could ever dream of, GIVE ME A CHOPPER any day,, I'll leave the HGVs to people like you, who seem to think they are romantic, and more than that they are bloody dangerous!!
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The big difference about roads on this side of the pond is that aside from the big cities they are fairly open . On a holiday weekend anywhere in Europe the major roads are more like car parks. I'm not sure why but the trucks also seem to spew out a lot less noxious fumes over here too ( maybe they get retired earlier )
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Mind numbing? Try 8-9 hours single pilot...worse two pilot in a Bell 212 tracked to Bristow's exacting standards.....that being if you can read the gauges it is too smooth.....heck...I-40 or I-30 anywhere in Arkansas is smoother than that! Helicopter flying is much more boring.....how many times can you make the Forcardos run out of Warri before you go completely numb? We even tried doing cross word puzzles to help out....
Dangerous....I don't know a single truck driver that got killed in a big rig.....want me to start listing the helicopter pilot friends alone that got snuffed in crashes?
Multiple government studies in both Canada and the USA prove that approximately 80% of all truck/car accidents are caused by the car's driver and not the truck.
Usually, truckers stick together.....not so helicopter pilots.....maybe in the UK the pilots are better at it than in the USA....but it was the fuel bowser drivers that shut the country down....the weak kneed North Sea pilots threatened strike but never did for improved wages.....the Bristow pilots caved early on....it took the CHC guys and gals to bring about the pay rises.
The idea of climbing into your own personal body bag to go flying as compared to wearing your plus fours or whatever to drive makes a big difference in my mind too. The UK certainly isn't the place for driving...car or truck....but that seems to hold for flying too I guess.
Trucking is exactly like helicopter flying in one regard....it is a simple mechanical skill that one can make a living with. Neither job will pay what it is really worth.....and the people doing it are the reason why. Neither industry seems to have quality management either. However, some trucking companies seem to understand that since humans are involved....they need to be a bit human in the way they deal with situations. They may force you into situations where you intentionally violate the rules but they don't throw you to the wolves when something goes wrong like helicopter companies do. Helicopter company managers must eat their own young I think.
If you cannot go more than a mile without replacing three or more light bulbs......you too might be a chicken hauller!
Dangerous....I don't know a single truck driver that got killed in a big rig.....want me to start listing the helicopter pilot friends alone that got snuffed in crashes?
Multiple government studies in both Canada and the USA prove that approximately 80% of all truck/car accidents are caused by the car's driver and not the truck.
Usually, truckers stick together.....not so helicopter pilots.....maybe in the UK the pilots are better at it than in the USA....but it was the fuel bowser drivers that shut the country down....the weak kneed North Sea pilots threatened strike but never did for improved wages.....the Bristow pilots caved early on....it took the CHC guys and gals to bring about the pay rises.
The idea of climbing into your own personal body bag to go flying as compared to wearing your plus fours or whatever to drive makes a big difference in my mind too. The UK certainly isn't the place for driving...car or truck....but that seems to hold for flying too I guess.
Trucking is exactly like helicopter flying in one regard....it is a simple mechanical skill that one can make a living with. Neither job will pay what it is really worth.....and the people doing it are the reason why. Neither industry seems to have quality management either. However, some trucking companies seem to understand that since humans are involved....they need to be a bit human in the way they deal with situations. They may force you into situations where you intentionally violate the rules but they don't throw you to the wolves when something goes wrong like helicopter companies do. Helicopter company managers must eat their own young I think.
If you cannot go more than a mile without replacing three or more light bulbs......you too might be a chicken hauller!
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Yorkie bars rare! No they're not. Was only recently sitting with my right foot on the loud pedal, my best girl by my side, John Lee Hooker playing on the stereo and only a few Yorkie bars to keep me going until reaching the truck stop where I could pull in for a delicious deep fried mince pie with chips and mushy peas. Guess even the dietary habits of truckers and helicopter pilots are the same.
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Where pray tell is a truckstop in the UK....never did see one? Fryed pies....would think all they would serve would be curry and couscous or pounded yam?
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I nearly understand what your on, in Oz you have long wide arrow straight roads, with only the odd Kanga or Abbo to get in the way(pity them) here in good old blighty, you have the Customs and excise to check your rigs are running on the right colour of Derv, the Thomas Couplings of our world to check your speed, your hours your tachograph, your breaks the depth of your tread on yer tyres, the state of your distributed weight, your MOT cert and plate to make you all nice and legal, your lights the height of your load on certain roads, the width and length of the rig, the weight loading on each axle, the smoke comming from the exhaust, they even stop you if you have all nice dangly bits in your windscreen to tell all the other morons where you have been in your "Rig", come of any ferry from Euroland and you have Dyke type Customs ladies( ? ) who dont believe anything they are told, who then put you and your Rig and your load into the "Shed" to be checked out by some spotty , snotty jobsworth who knows absolutly sweet FA about business, but proceeds to tell you that they DO have the right to drill holes into the chassis to see if any "White Powder" comes out with the drill, as you start to think why did I spend 80 grand on a new truck or two, you look across the dock yard and see our Froggy cousins driving in and through because they dont " Speaka da Inglishe" so because the customs Dykes had a very poor education they let them in, ****** the fact that they are on Red diesel and carrying a few dozen Albanians or Iranians or some of Uncle Saddams lot, good God you think Heavy Haulage is good, Ill swop you all my tranport and trailers and service manuals and the rule book for one Helicopter any day, and yes I have a book with about 12 good lads who are all dead through thoughtless actions by other drivers, and when a really big rig hits something really solid, I would even say the mess is definately the equivalent of any Wocka hitting the wrong cloud.
Sorry to go on and even sorrier to use Thomas Coupling as the obvious PC49, but I think youll see what I mean if you carry on with this (love affair) with truck and HGV's.
Now I feel better
I nearly understand what your on, in Oz you have long wide arrow straight roads, with only the odd Kanga or Abbo to get in the way(pity them) here in good old blighty, you have the Customs and excise to check your rigs are running on the right colour of Derv, the Thomas Couplings of our world to check your speed, your hours your tachograph, your breaks the depth of your tread on yer tyres, the state of your distributed weight, your MOT cert and plate to make you all nice and legal, your lights the height of your load on certain roads, the width and length of the rig, the weight loading on each axle, the smoke comming from the exhaust, they even stop you if you have all nice dangly bits in your windscreen to tell all the other morons where you have been in your "Rig", come of any ferry from Euroland and you have Dyke type Customs ladies( ? ) who dont believe anything they are told, who then put you and your Rig and your load into the "Shed" to be checked out by some spotty , snotty jobsworth who knows absolutly sweet FA about business, but proceeds to tell you that they DO have the right to drill holes into the chassis to see if any "White Powder" comes out with the drill, as you start to think why did I spend 80 grand on a new truck or two, you look across the dock yard and see our Froggy cousins driving in and through because they dont " Speaka da Inglishe" so because the customs Dykes had a very poor education they let them in, ****** the fact that they are on Red diesel and carrying a few dozen Albanians or Iranians or some of Uncle Saddams lot, good God you think Heavy Haulage is good, Ill swop you all my tranport and trailers and service manuals and the rule book for one Helicopter any day, and yes I have a book with about 12 good lads who are all dead through thoughtless actions by other drivers, and when a really big rig hits something really solid, I would even say the mess is definately the equivalent of any Wocka hitting the wrong cloud.
Sorry to go on and even sorrier to use Thomas Coupling as the obvious PC49, but I think youll see what I mean if you carry on with this (love affair) with truck and HGV's.
Now I feel better
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Hey Vfr and all others:
How is that in good olīEurope now? Are you still using the damn tacho-paper-discs? I thought they implemented GPS-based black boxes with electronic driver codecards, so the police can still fine you 3 years after you passed a village with 5 km/h too fast!!
Last time I was driving about 7 years ago, and it was getting out of hand.
When I started with an old double articulated rig (around ī88) ,with twin wheels on a triple axle trailer, I got 5 flats on the first trip.
The feeling of "King of the road" (despite a big sign on the front of my Volvo...)was gone after about 4 weeks, hanging out four of the weekends on some lousy resting place.
Later I got a new 420 hp Scania and ran it at 115 km/h in East Germany (April before the wall came down...).
The best truck I ever got my hands on was a Renault "Magnum" with the big Mack engine (520 hp), one is on top the traffic, standup room - I am 1,87m,flat floor over the engine, however it was lousy driving - Coolers, always lacking sleep......
It started to get bad when they put in the speed limiters (85 km/h, thatīs it...)
The latest I heared from home (Austria) is ,that on Austrian Highways trucks are not allowed to pass anymore!! Imagine you have a sleeper in front and you are not allowed to pass!
THanks, but no, I stick with the swingwing!!
It seems that things are different in North America....
I am not even starting with OZ. Here we would have to go on some RAILROAD forum!!! Once you can haul more than 2 trailers it is a train isnīt it!! Are you still called a trucker down under or is it "engineer" (locomotive-...)
3top,
How is that in good olīEurope now? Are you still using the damn tacho-paper-discs? I thought they implemented GPS-based black boxes with electronic driver codecards, so the police can still fine you 3 years after you passed a village with 5 km/h too fast!!
Last time I was driving about 7 years ago, and it was getting out of hand.
When I started with an old double articulated rig (around ī88) ,with twin wheels on a triple axle trailer, I got 5 flats on the first trip.
The feeling of "King of the road" (despite a big sign on the front of my Volvo...)was gone after about 4 weeks, hanging out four of the weekends on some lousy resting place.
Later I got a new 420 hp Scania and ran it at 115 km/h in East Germany (April before the wall came down...).
The best truck I ever got my hands on was a Renault "Magnum" with the big Mack engine (520 hp), one is on top the traffic, standup room - I am 1,87m,flat floor over the engine, however it was lousy driving - Coolers, always lacking sleep......
It started to get bad when they put in the speed limiters (85 km/h, thatīs it...)
The latest I heared from home (Austria) is ,that on Austrian Highways trucks are not allowed to pass anymore!! Imagine you have a sleeper in front and you are not allowed to pass!
THanks, but no, I stick with the swingwing!!
It seems that things are different in North America....
I am not even starting with OZ. Here we would have to go on some RAILROAD forum!!! Once you can haul more than 2 trailers it is a train isnīt it!! Are you still called a trucker down under or is it "engineer" (locomotive-...)
3top,
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3Top....I pulled triple trailers for United Parcel Service in Oregon....hardest part of the job was turning the rear view mirrors around to the front....so one would not be tempted to look to the rear and see what the last trailer was doing.....kept you from getting scared that way! Until I pulled them....never understood why they were called "Wiggle Wagons".....you could in a hurry actually attempt to follow yourself out of the parking lot if you were not careful. It took so long to do the pretrip inspection on the things you had to take a bag lunch along or else you could get awfully hungry. They just would not work on the East Coast....why you could pull out to pass a slower truck in Georgia and be in North Carolina before you got by.
When I bought my own truck....a big long nosed Freightliner Condo sleeper conventional.....opted for the big Detroit engine and an double overdrive 13 speed transmission with tall rubber. Got stopped by a highway patrolman in Tennessee....very nice man who let me off with a warning....96 in a 70 zone. He allowed as how it was hard enough for a trucker to make a living without having to pay a huge speeding fine...and if I would promise to be more careful...etc...etc...he would let me go with a warning. He suggested I was a bit daft going that fast with such a large vehicle....never summoned up the courage to tell him I had three more gears to go when he stopped me! Ol' Yeller was a sure nuff Chicken Hauller.....never had the courage to find out just how fast that thing would run....gave up at 105 and had one two more gears left!
We now have GPS based systems that track the truck and via a downlink system to a computer records your position everytime you send or receive a message or at regular intervals.....makes cross checking the logbook too simple. But then time travel is not very new or SciFi anymore.....heck...truckers been doing it for fifty years. I usually got home three days before my logbook....and got to my Monday delivery before I left home.
If your transmission has more gears than you have teeth....you too might be a Chicken Hauller!
When I bought my own truck....a big long nosed Freightliner Condo sleeper conventional.....opted for the big Detroit engine and an double overdrive 13 speed transmission with tall rubber. Got stopped by a highway patrolman in Tennessee....very nice man who let me off with a warning....96 in a 70 zone. He allowed as how it was hard enough for a trucker to make a living without having to pay a huge speeding fine...and if I would promise to be more careful...etc...etc...he would let me go with a warning. He suggested I was a bit daft going that fast with such a large vehicle....never summoned up the courage to tell him I had three more gears to go when he stopped me! Ol' Yeller was a sure nuff Chicken Hauller.....never had the courage to find out just how fast that thing would run....gave up at 105 and had one two more gears left!
We now have GPS based systems that track the truck and via a downlink system to a computer records your position everytime you send or receive a message or at regular intervals.....makes cross checking the logbook too simple. But then time travel is not very new or SciFi anymore.....heck...truckers been doing it for fifty years. I usually got home three days before my logbook....and got to my Monday delivery before I left home.
If your transmission has more gears than you have teeth....you too might be a Chicken Hauller!
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Hi SAS,
a) How long was the whole UPS-train?
a1) Where you called an "engineer"?
b) Was it dual wheels? How many axles on each trailer, max takeoff weight?
c) What do you have the 2 extra gears if you are chicken to try them (...you might be a chicken hauler for that, too!!). You see I know an operator in Austria who had the diff gear ratio changed to lower the engine rpm at max speed (85 km/h - speed governor!!) to max economy!!
d) I also know a guy who prefers European Trucks for sophistication (synchronized gears, now a days computer shifted, ....starts to get like airliner flying - booooring), but US-driving for a living.
e) Long nosed Condos are a no-no in Europe as the Total Vehicle Length is limited to 18 m for Double-articulated and 16m for single-articulated. How is that in the states? Also max takeoff weight is 40 tons metric.
Are you still flying?
3top
a) How long was the whole UPS-train?
a1) Where you called an "engineer"?
b) Was it dual wheels? How many axles on each trailer, max takeoff weight?
c) What do you have the 2 extra gears if you are chicken to try them (...you might be a chicken hauler for that, too!!). You see I know an operator in Austria who had the diff gear ratio changed to lower the engine rpm at max speed (85 km/h - speed governor!!) to max economy!!
d) I also know a guy who prefers European Trucks for sophistication (synchronized gears, now a days computer shifted, ....starts to get like airliner flying - booooring), but US-driving for a living.
e) Long nosed Condos are a no-no in Europe as the Total Vehicle Length is limited to 18 m for Double-articulated and 16m for single-articulated. How is that in the states? Also max takeoff weight is 40 tons metric.
Are you still flying?
3top
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3Top.....
A) 105 feet bumper to bumper, 105,000 pounds max legal weight
B) Nope...not an engineer....usually called "You F_ _ king A_ _ hole!" by non-commerical drivers with cell phones stuffed into their ear....holding a Starbucks in the other hand....steering with their knees....while typing on the laptop with some other protuberance!
C) 7 axles....26 tires...single steers and duals on the rest....first trailer hooked by kingpin to the power unit....pintle hook for each converter dolly....each with a fifth wheel for the trailers.....definitely not something to reverse with for very far!
D) True Chicken Haullers could care less about fuel economy! Just long noses, lots of lights, tons of chrome, cowboy boots and stetsons......chain drive wallets....and pedal to the metal, whoosh whoosh , toot toot!
E) True Chicken Haullers don't need no stinking computers shifting gears for them....uh uh...no sir-ree Bob! A real Chicken Hauller is a double clutching...gear jamming highway hero!
F) As to laws pertaining to width...length....weight...height...axle spacing, axle weights, axle group weight, axle bridge weights, signs, flags, strobes, permits, bingo cards, licenses, IFTA fuel stickers, Fed 2290 Highway tax, State fuel tax, road use tax, and just a few other hundred darn rules and regulations....well there are fifty states and the separate provinces of Canada that each and all have different views of what is legal. Haulling oversized loads...bulldozers and other large yellow pieces of iron like I specialize in...requires a Philadelphia Lawyer to keep you mostly legal! Not unheard of to get a $9600 ticket in North Carolina....that kinda shoots the weeks paycheck when that happens!
G) Me dear ol' Mum thinks I play piano in a Bordello....if she ever found out I fly helicopters for a living it would break the ol' dears heart! My name is Sasless, I am a helicopter pilot, but I can stop at any time I want. (Carry over from my AA days!)
A) 105 feet bumper to bumper, 105,000 pounds max legal weight
B) Nope...not an engineer....usually called "You F_ _ king A_ _ hole!" by non-commerical drivers with cell phones stuffed into their ear....holding a Starbucks in the other hand....steering with their knees....while typing on the laptop with some other protuberance!
C) 7 axles....26 tires...single steers and duals on the rest....first trailer hooked by kingpin to the power unit....pintle hook for each converter dolly....each with a fifth wheel for the trailers.....definitely not something to reverse with for very far!
D) True Chicken Haullers could care less about fuel economy! Just long noses, lots of lights, tons of chrome, cowboy boots and stetsons......chain drive wallets....and pedal to the metal, whoosh whoosh , toot toot!
E) True Chicken Haullers don't need no stinking computers shifting gears for them....uh uh...no sir-ree Bob! A real Chicken Hauller is a double clutching...gear jamming highway hero!
F) As to laws pertaining to width...length....weight...height...axle spacing, axle weights, axle group weight, axle bridge weights, signs, flags, strobes, permits, bingo cards, licenses, IFTA fuel stickers, Fed 2290 Highway tax, State fuel tax, road use tax, and just a few other hundred darn rules and regulations....well there are fifty states and the separate provinces of Canada that each and all have different views of what is legal. Haulling oversized loads...bulldozers and other large yellow pieces of iron like I specialize in...requires a Philadelphia Lawyer to keep you mostly legal! Not unheard of to get a $9600 ticket in North Carolina....that kinda shoots the weeks paycheck when that happens!
G) Me dear ol' Mum thinks I play piano in a Bordello....if she ever found out I fly helicopters for a living it would break the ol' dears heart! My name is Sasless, I am a helicopter pilot, but I can stop at any time I want. (Carry over from my AA days!)
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SAs:
a) I also prefer to shift myself and not the computer, but nowadays in Europe Economy rules (thatīs part why I donīt drive rigs there anymore) - Forget about your point D)!!
b) Seems the same crap everywhere withthe big yellow things!
I stopped doing them, because the owner of the company NEVER got the right permits - always to light, narrow and short.
Next stop would have been my licence! THatīs where I went for the Freezers - and forget about sleeping.
Just for fun: what is your average fuel burn?
3top,
a) I also prefer to shift myself and not the computer, but nowadays in Europe Economy rules (thatīs part why I donīt drive rigs there anymore) - Forget about your point D)!!
b) Seems the same crap everywhere withthe big yellow things!
I stopped doing them, because the owner of the company NEVER got the right permits - always to light, narrow and short.
Next stop would have been my licence! THatīs where I went for the Freezers - and forget about sleeping.
Just for fun: what is your average fuel burn?
3top,
