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Old 25th August 2025 | 20:30
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Old 25th August 2025 | 20:36
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Originally Posted by John4321
Tail rotor failure, aircraft doomed (unless height helps with auto rotation).
Not sure about the Robinson, but we practice TR failures all the time, one is not doomed, and we do not do an autorotation.
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Old 25th August 2025 | 21:32
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Just seen the video of the crash on the BBC, no tail appendage or gearbox at all, looks like it has been chopped off . Not sure how recoverable that would ever be Gordy, one thing losing drive something else losing the whole dam thing .
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Old 25th August 2025 | 21:40
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Sad news.

FYI Dave and his mates are investigating…
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CS...ibextid=wwXIfr
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Old 25th August 2025 | 22:15
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Old 25th August 2025 | 23:26
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
no tail appendage or gearbox at all, looks like it has been chopped off . Not sure how recoverable that would ever be Gordy, one thing losing drive something else losing the whole dam thing .
Agreed, but I was talking about TR failure, not TR complete loss
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Old 26th August 2025 | 02:09
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Reading some of the posts here shows who is not a helicopter pilot.


If it was mast bumping, the rotor would have separated from the mast, and probably chopped up the cabin etc.

Floats, don’t cushion the impact with the ground.

May I politely suggest that this conversation is left to professional helicopter pilots?

Apologies if I’m speaking out of turn.


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Originally Posted by Gordy
Not sure about the Robinson, but we practice TR failures all the time, one is not doomed, and we do not do an autorotation.
Practice and reality aren't the same. A loss of thrust is one problem, typically a section of the tail leaves with the gearbox which can have dire consequences on the CoG.
On a light aircraft like a Robbie that can go badly wrong, quickly.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 05:54
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Originally Posted by B Hollocks

May I politely suggest that this conversation is left to professional helicopter pilots?

Apologies if I’m speaking out of turn.
On behalf of all the perfectly competent PPL H holders out there. Past and present, I'd say you are.

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Old 26th August 2025 | 06:30
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A very sad day indeed. I have quite a lot of hours in Robinsons, and an Alternator failure was the only issue I ever experienced, thankfully. Hopefully, the surviving pax will be able to give more information as to what happened and allow the AAIB to get to the bottom of why. In the meantime, I wish them a speedy recovery. My thoughts and prayers are with those involved and their families, as well as the operators and the rotary community at this time. It always hits hard and serves as a reminder of the risks we all take in aviation. Rest in Peace.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 07:16
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Old 26th August 2025 | 07:20
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Accident helicopter in June 2025
Accident helicopter in June 2025
Stabilizer (?) near the body of the helicopter
Stabilizer (?) near the body of the helicopter
Bend in a blade
Bend in a blade

The last two pictures are clipped from the video posted upthread.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 11:09
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
Just seen the video of the crash on the BBC, no tail appendage or gearbox at all, looks like it has been chopped off . Not sure how recoverable that would ever be Gordy, one thing losing drive something else losing the whole dam thing .
I wonder are looking at something similar to the Heli accident in New York where there were no survivors?
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Old 26th August 2025 | 11:38
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Only a few thousand heli hours and a survivor of a Gazelle engine failure at 30ft going vertically up in a CA.

I would suggest those blades were not turning on impact…. still at 180 to each other and no damage from striking anything whilst rotating, but massive vertical crushing.

Very sad.

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Old 26th August 2025 | 12:21
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There have been several catastrophic failures recently leading to loss of life. Have ballistic chutes ever been looked at as a last ditch survival mechanism for helos?
It has also been reported that families of those lost are crowd funding to pay for their repatriation. Would a helicopter flight be considered high risk? Would standard holiday insurance not pay out?

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Old 26th August 2025 | 14:16
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Originally Posted by DogTailRed2
There have been several catastrophic failures recently leading to loss of life. Have ballistic chutes ever been looked at as a last ditch survival mechanism for helos?
It has also been reported that families of those lost are crowd funding to pay for their repatriation. Would a helicopter flight be considered high risk? Would standard holiday insurance not pay out?
Believe the couple were from Oxfordshire. The crowd funding is to enable them to be laid to rest in the land of their birth.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 14:59
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Originally Posted by Gordy
Not sure about the Robinson, but we practice TR failures all the time, one is not doomed, and we do not do an autorotation.
During my Robby training we barely did any TR failure practice. However, an auto is in the flight manual for Loss of Tailrotor Thrust.

There was a guy in a 44 once (in the Robby newsletter) who had his TR ripped off and managed to fly for about 45 minutes (he was over dense forest) before doing a 40kts running landing. Still had the vertical stabalizer though.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 15:47
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
During my Robby training we barely did any TR failure practice.
I suspect that is a down side of the flight school.... We do training every year for stuck left, stuck right, loss of thrust etc, none of which require autorotation.

As most know, (I have written an account on Pprune somewhere), I had stuck left pedal in an Astar with 6 passengers many years ago---landed it safely, no damage.

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Old 26th August 2025 | 16:01
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Originally Posted by Gordy
I suspect that is a down side of the flight school.... We do training every year for stuck left, stuck right, loss of thrust etc, none of which require autorotation.

As most know, (I have written an account on Pprune somewhere), I had stuck left pedal in an Astar with 6 passengers many years ago---landed it safely, no damage.
During my first job interview (part time showing real estate that was for sale from the air in an R44) I was asked about stuck pedal. The only thing I remembered my instructors (two different schools for PPL and Com) ever saying about it was that Robbies didn't have to worry about it because we don't have cable linkage. Needless to say, the interviewer was not impressed, lol.
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Old 26th August 2025 | 16:01
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Believe the couple were from Oxfordshire. The crowd funding is to enable them to be laid to rest in the land of their birth.
Yes - Poland
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