Oopsie

[Hangarless]

Pilot looked very hesitant to me.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/4061951724060557

[Sir Korsky]

Made the NY Post too...

https://nypost.com/2025/06/22/us-new...urant-running/

[Agile]

Is that called a longitudinal roll over?

[josephfeatherweight]

Originally Posted by Sir Korsky

Made the NY Post too...

https://nypost.com/2025/06/22/us-new...urant-running/

The headline "Helicopter crashes near Michigan lake, sending diners at waterfront restaurant running" is inaccurate.
Nobody runs (or even ducks) anywhere - that's the problem. Do people not have any survival instincts these days?

[212man]

Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight

The headline "Helicopter crashes near Michigan lake, sending diners at waterfront restaurant running" is inaccurate.
Nobody runs (or even ducks) anywhere - that's the problem. Do people not have any survival instincts these days?

On the plus side, at least the person filming didn’t start filming the ground at the money shot, as often happens 😂

[Gordy]

Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight

The headline "Helicopter crashes near Michigan lake, sending diners at waterfront restaurant running" is inaccurate.
Nobody runs (or even ducks) anywhere - that's the problem. Do people not have any survival instincts these days?

When you see it from a different angle, they are nowhere near the crash.

[albatross]

if this was not mechanical.
I gotta ask - How do some folks get a licence? Do they find the darn thing at the bottom of a crackerjack box?
Is the only criteria money?
Somebody passed that “pilot’”’s check-ride…

[76fan]

Originally Posted by albatross

if this was not mechanical.
I gotta ask - How do some folks get a licence? Do they find the darn thing at the bottom of a crackerjack box?
Is the only criteria money?
Somebody passed that “pilot’”’s check-ride…

Landing facing downwind and possibly also limited on power? I would suggest poor handling and probably poorly trained in the delicacy of out of wind landings.

[Jimmy.]

Despite the downwind, it seems quite clear a large forward cyclic input after the skids are fully on ground.

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by 76fan

Landing facing downwind and possibly also limited on power? I would suggest poor handling and probably poorly trained in the delicacy of out of wind landings.

It's a 350B4... It has all the power. This was a poorly trained pilot. at the termination of the landing it looks like they're level, before they stuff cyclic forwards and raise the collective...

[Hangarless]

Looks to me like its is one of those wow look at me land my helicopter where all can see me do it.

Is not the first time and won't be the last time that a pilot to trips on their own ego.

[Nubian]

Originally Posted by Jimmy.

Despite the downwind, it seems quite clear a large forward cyclic input after the skids are fully on ground.

There's a better video on Aviation Safety Network where you can see some rather large and jerky control inputs, both collective and cyclic. It seems as a slight slope he is landing on, tail low, and the disk tilted far forward.

From the video, I'll be very surprised if the pilot had any significant time in the machine. Reminds me of the 350 trying to land on the dolly in Oxnard a few years back....allthough with a better ending.

It's a 350B4... It has all the power.

It's a EC130T2, so even better performance.

[twinstar_ca]

winnie and albatross, says was a canadian registered machine... did you notice the logo on the tail??

[That lights normal!]

There is a similar video of a Squirrel in Fiji.


Tense, less capable pilot - touches the skids down. Rushes the collective down. AC tilts back (due surface or hovering toes low). Pilot looks at the ground or somewhere -losing the vital accurate cabin attitude perspective. Too much forward cyclic and panicked haul up of the collective. New machine required.

[SLFMS]

Is it possible in these instances with excessive cyclic off centre, they get a vibration or droop stop pounding and panic thinking it’s ground resonance?
It may explain the massive pitch pull which of course is a problem when the disk is off centre.

[Sir HC]

Originally Posted by twinstar_ca

winnie and albatross, says was a canadian registered machine... did you notice the logo on the tail??

It is registered to Arrow Helicopters out of Revelstoke. I'm guessing it's a wealthy heli-ski buddy of theirs.

[Fun_police]

I have never been in the 130 but have lots of Astar time so be patient…: I watched a guy do almost the same thing on the ramp at KLGD Oregon several years ago. He was very lucky to have not rolled it over the nose and he was facing us while we were on the forestry ramp watching (slow news day and all…). The aircraft settled down upright but I really did think there would be blade contact with the pavement but fortunately it never went that far. Is there a CofG or out of wind problem with the 130 that the 125 doesn’t have? If I remember correctly he had a full cabin…
Hopefully no one was injured in this accident and I am happy to relay that no one seemed to be in the incident I witnessed…

[Ascend Charlie]

It's a powerful rotor head, and with a contact from the skids, there is a pivot point to help with the following disaster.

Have seen similar when a passenger, trying to get out of the left seat with engine running, lifted right leg to go over the cyclic but caught it and pushed it hard forward and left. Big, but not totally unexpected, Splat.

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by twinstar_ca

winnie and albatross, says was a canadian registered machine... did you notice the logo on the tail??

Went back and saw the logo, then checked the reg. It's registered to Arrow Helicopters out of Revelstoke. but doubt they'd be operating in Michigan...

[206Fan]

Went back and saw the logo, then checked the reg. It's registered to Arrow Helicopters out of Revelstoke. but doubt they'd be operating in Michigan...

Machine is, or in another term "was" a year old according to the TC Website.

Recent movements!

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/CGPVB