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Old 30th May 2023, 14:38
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Bristow wins Irish SAR

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/f9647-government-announces-preferred-tenderer-for-the-provision-of-the-new-irish-coast-guard-search-and-rescue-aviation-contract/#
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30th May 2023, 17:56
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I'm glad Bristow have got it, they have come a very long way in the last 10 years and made a far better job of UKSAR than I expected before they took the contract.

With the experience and skilled manpower they have at their disposal now and a SAR model that works well, let's hope they can do the same with Irish SAR and bring it up to where it should be.
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Not going to plan for CHC.

Dutch SAR, UK SAR, Irish SAR, and sitting on the sidelines as BRS scooped up Dutch Caribbean and bought BIH in the Falklands.
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I'm glad Bristow have got it, they have come a very long way in the last 10 years and made a far better job of UKSAR than I expected before they took the contract.

With the experience and skilled manpower they have at their disposal now and a SAR model that works well, let's hope they can do the same with Irish SAR and bring it up to where it should be.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
I'm glad Bristow have got it, they have come a very long way in the last 10 years and made a far better job of UKSAR than I expected before they took the contract.

With the experience and skilled manpower they have at their disposal now and a SAR model that works well, let's hope they can do the same with Irish SAR and bring it up to where it should be.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
I'm glad Bristow have got it, they have come a very long way in the last 10 years and made a far better job of UKSAR than I expected before they took the contract.

With the experience and skilled manpower they have at their disposal now and a SAR model that works well, let's hope they can do the same with Irish SAR and bring it up to where it should be.
Where do you think that Irish SAR is that it needs to be brought "up to where it should be"?
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Somewhere where the litany of threats and errors identified in the R116 accident are not present?

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Originally Posted by Torquetalk
Somewhere where the litany of threats and errors identified in the R116 accident are not present.
R116 report definitely identifies some issues with oversight, command and control for CHC, and various elements of the DoT. That report does not touch on the more obvious causes.
My question above still stands for [email protected]

"With the experience and skilled manpower they have at their disposal now and a SAR model that works well, let's hope they can do the same with Irish SAR and bring it up to where it should be"

​​​​​What in the above quote do you feel needs to be brought by Bristow, to bring Irish SAR up to where you feel it isn't and should be?

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Originally Posted by Torquetalk
Somewhere where the litany of threats and errors identified in the R116 accident are not present?
Like somewhere close to the M MCGR serious incident..

keep it clean the contract is won.



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FT

post-event, plenty may have changed and my reply was not intended to be dirty or unfair. But what happened there was not bad luck. The number of identifiable preventable factors was shocking.
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post-event, plenty may have changed and my reply was not intended to be dirty or unfair. But what happened there was not bad luck. The number of identifiable preventable factors was shocking.
Agreed and the environment that allowed that accident to happen (including the conduct of the flight itself) is exactly what I was referring to.

A good friend of mine flew Irish SAR on S61 and S92 had had very little good to say about the way national pride obscured best practice in SAR.
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Originally Posted by Franks Town
Like somewhere close to the M MCGR serious incident..

keep it clean the contract is won.
Clutching at straws - I donít think there are many, if any, similarities!
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One thing that is true in Aviation....Accident Investigations done properly. have a sure way of identifying problems that contribute to the accident happening.

Those problems might be unforeseen, un-intentional, undesirable, and unfortunate....but they existed.

Perhaps we should see a change in how the Accident Investigation system works where at some defined time interval there be a requirement for an Audit of the Unit/Operator be done to determine what actions have been taken to eliminate those problems identified during the Accident Investigation.

If we are going to suffer losses of People and Aircraft then those tragic losses should result in something positive and good and hopefully eliminate as best possible those factors from recurring.

With the results of the Irish SAR Contract being known.....it will be up to the Winner to prove it has the ability to operate efficiently, safely, and do so from Day One of the new Contract.

Lets hope they do well in all regards.

And.....yes....there were (or should have been) Lessons Learned from the Irish SAR Crash that is being mentioned.

The new Operator has the luxury of bringing its own proven system and way of operating to the operation so no need to re-hash history is it?
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Perhaps we should see a change in how the Accident Investigation system works where at some defined time interval there be a requirement for an Audit of the Unit/Operator be done to determine what actions have been taken to eliminate those problems identified during the Accident Investigation.
^^ This......
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Perhaps we should see a change in how the Accident Investigation system works where at some defined time interval there be a requirement for an Audit of the Unit/Operator be done to determine what actions have been taken to eliminate those problems identified during the Accident Investigation.
That already happens in certain geographies, usually conducted by the regulator once the accident report has been published.
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I'm hearing rumours of aircraft type change? Anyone know?
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https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023...8-coast-guard/
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I'm hearing rumours of aircraft type change? Anyone know?
Likely AW189. The UK SAR bid is based on 189/ 139 so I'd expect synergies with that.
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Originally Posted by nowherespecial
Likely AW189. The UK SAR bid is based on 189/ 139 so I'd expect synergies with that.
That's what I have heard, ties in with FI contract too.
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Bristows SAR training at Daedalus

Not sure if this deserves its own thread or not. Bristow have just launched a consultation for a new purpose built SAR training facility at the old Daedalus site (now Solent Airport) Local council are onboard, subject to planning etc.Itís nice to see the airport coming back to life gradually.
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