R44 crash w/video - Forresters Beach NSW - 19/11/2022
Originally Posted by Robbiee
Wow,...if you're doing that, you need a better instructor, lol.
Originally Posted by Bell_ringer
Robbiee old chum, a grown man saying “lol” in the twenty-twenties is as wrong as the same ageing bloke wearing a budgie smuggler. It’s very hard to take anything seriously when it’s followed by a #rofl..
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Someone in California doesn't know what ROFL means??????? Like wow dude.........
Originally Posted by Robbiee
Wow,...if you're doing that, you need a better instructor, lol.
Restricting the governor with a overly firm grip is an issue with tense students and low time pilots.
On some older machines the governor stepper motor gets tired and the (non-adjustable) friction clutch wears resulting in a "weak" governor that is easily overridden.
Some examples from the archives below:
Originally Posted by Aluminium Mallard
When you say you/you're, you mean them/they right?
Restricting the governor with a overly firm grip is an issue with tense students and low time pilots.
On some older machines the governor stepper motor gets tired and the (non-adjustable) friction clutch wears resulting in a "weak" governor that is easily overridden.
Some examples from the archives below:
https://youtu.be/0blbra-bUIY
https://youtu.be/fe2CN0SIwTk
Restricting the governor with a overly firm grip is an issue with tense students and low time pilots.
On some older machines the governor stepper motor gets tired and the (non-adjustable) friction clutch wears resulting in a "weak" governor that is easily overridden.
Some examples from the archives below:
https://youtu.be/0blbra-bUIY
https://youtu.be/fe2CN0SIwTk
I was taught this in 2003 and still do it to this day.
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LTE, if it existed, would cease after maybe 180 degrees of yaw and the T/R is out of the problem area. That news chopper had the low RPM warning on for AGES, spinning for ages, so I am wondering what the heck she was doing (apart from breathing heavily) - it wasn't anything useful.
The R44 video didn't really show anything except a high power setting resulting in RPM decay.
And yes, the grip on the collective should be the little and third fingers around the collective shaft and the thumb, forefinger and middle finger operating/monitoring the throttle.
The R44 video didn't really show anything except a high power setting resulting in RPM decay.
And yes, the grip on the collective should be the little and third fingers around the collective shaft and the thumb, forefinger and middle finger operating/monitoring the throttle.
Avoid imitations
Originally Posted by Bell_ringer
Robbiee old chum, a grown man saying “lol” in the twenty-twenties is as wrong as the same ageing bloke wearing a budgie smuggler. It’s very hard to take anything seriously when it’s followed by a #rofl..
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But what does she/he/they identify as???
i think the answer is - helicopter pilot
i think the answer is - helicopter pilot
However, in light of my State's recent decent into lunacy, I've replaced all my pronouns with "asshole". Therefore, you may refer to me as, "That asshole". Thank you, and have a nice day.
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Firstly to point out, Im not a tick tokker 
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Originally Posted by Twist & Shout
Who would you put in charge of deciding where is suitable to land, if not the PIC?
Originally Posted by Robbiee
The way good (experienced) Robby instructors deal with the death grip, is to instruct the student to place their three back fingers on the collective so that only the thumb and indext fingers are lightly touching the throttle. This way as the student tightens their grip it doesn't override the governor.
I was taught this in 2003 and still do it to this day.
I was taught this in 2003 and still do it to this day.
Any sign of tension in a student should be addressed, but it can be a bit of work. Much easier to get them to hold the collective differently and tick a box but you are setting them up to fail.
Originally Posted by Aluminium Mallard
I wasn't taught that... but used to do it as a low hour pilot. I found later on when I started instructing it prevents you from manipulating the throttle... mainly in tail rotor failures and governor off ops.
Any sign of tension in a student should be addressed, but it can be a bit of work. Much easier to get them to hold the collective differently and tick a box but you are setting them up to fail.
Any sign of tension in a student should be addressed, but it can be a bit of work. Much easier to get them to hold the collective differently and tick a box but you are setting them up to fail.
you do you.
