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Old 20th Dec 2019, 08:42
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Knowing the owner and his experience, I too will be fascinated to see the end product.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 07:37
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Something new is coming

https://www.hillhelicopters.com/
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 07:59
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Originally Posted by muffin View Post
Odd marketing supposition. "Truly private"? As opposed to falsely private? Or truly corporate? And there has never been a truly private helicopter before? I can't help wondering why they chose that as a hook.

I am however prepared to be underwhelmed when the news hits. Hopefully I will be surprised.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 08:21
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Means absolutely nothing to anybody ... An undefined helicopter operation will start in an undefined location, serving an undefined need. The start time is defined, but without the the other information, completely pointless waste of webspace. Even the https certificate has no location defined.

I'm starting a 'truly private' Coffee shop soon - location and further details as to whether you qualify to be a customner to be announced ...
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 08:30
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They have certainly achieved their aim of getting noticed then.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 13:25
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You will be gobsmacked when you see ! A truly private machine means just that. You cant and won't be able to use it for PT or Part SPO work. I believe this will come to fruition, as and when it does it will leave all other manufactures light years behind

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Old 8th Jul 2020, 14:55
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Until the first one crashes........
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 15:24
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Until the first one crashes........
Did'nt that nearly happen with the R44 a few high profile accidents... but the R44 survived !

With all the cloak and dagger surrounding this new helicopter, it's going to have to be something special. Let's hope we will not be disappointed ?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 15:48
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Cornish made and it is an exciting prospect. You should have more faith.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 18:36
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Cornish made and it is an exciting prospect. You should have more faith.
Eagerly awaiting a Pasty with some form of rotors then ?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 06:01
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"Truly private" would mean it cannot be certified for anything useful, such as commercial ops. So, the only buyers will be the "Look at me!" generation. Pretty limited market.
Will it be able to land in places that regular rotorcraft cannot?
I hope the R&D funds weren't used on that website, what a waste of bandwidth.

And you will find a lot more "negative people" here on PPRuNe than Crab, add me to the list as well.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 10:57
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I'm sure I will fall off my chair when I see it.

I won't be buying one though, I find it hard keeping my 15 year old van roadworthy.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 11:15
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I wonder who noticed the background picture...



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Old 9th Jul 2020, 11:38
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That is the point it won't be certified for commercial ops, hence a truly private machine. It will also get away from the current manufacturers competition on who can rip the owner off the most !
As for pretty limited market, just the opposite i think you will find, If you have 500k to spend what do you get ? 50 year old designed second hand 206 / 500. Have to spend at least that to buy an R66 or 1m plus on a 505, so if you are a private owner do you needed it commercially certified er NO.
It is really about time we as an industry stopped putting up with the overpriced crap that the current manufactures come up with. I guess at least Bell has tried to do something about it with the 505, but they wanted to certify it for commercial ops hence the price tag
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 11:43
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Nige321 - yes, the top of a Sea King unless I am very much mistaken.

Hughes500 - is this going to be single seat or a 2-seater?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 11:57
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Truly private? Surely a single seater with no windows.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 12:48
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Sounds about as appealing as a chocolate teapot.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 14:04
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way more than one
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 15:59
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Cierva Grasshopper last flew sometime in the early 70s I think. I recall seeing three separate airframes in a hangar/shed just west of Bristow's main hangar when I visited in early 1978, pretty sure the project was moribund by then.
The Cierva Grasshopper did indeed run out of money but there was only ever one complete airframe. They switched components between the first two and the third was only a ground testbed. All three ended up st the Helicopter Museum where the most complete one is on permanent display.....Anyway enough of the thread drift.....
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 16:18
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This is a big machine, 1650kg max gross is about a third more than the R66, so price will be well north of $1MM.
That limits the private buyer pool.
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