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Old 8th Aug 2019, 11:23
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Single engine IFR certified helicopter

https://helihub.com/2019/08/08/genes...certification/

Is it really IFR certified? Certified by whom?
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 13:26
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The US FAA approved the STC.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...s-ifr-approval
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 13:38
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The title "first" is a bit inaccurate. It's the only CURRENT offering, but there have certainly been other singles that have met IFR requirements.

How quickly we forget.
https://www.rotorandwing.com/2015/06...ne-ifr-helo-2/
Forty years ago, Vought Aircraft and Sperry collaborated to produce the SA-341 IFR Gazelle. This first IFR-certified single-engine helicopter was a breakthrough.
Bell 407 IFR:
http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/fsb/bell407fsb.pdf

And from our own PPRuNe: Single engine - IFR capable?



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Old 8th Aug 2019, 14:03
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Mike....that was a Johnny Come Lately as well.

Go back further and you will see there ws a piston engine IFR helicopter that set many records and gained IFR Certification.

The Cessna CH-1 Skyhook was certified for IFR flight by the FAA
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 15:04
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Mike....that was a Johnny Come Lately as well.

Go back further and you will see there ws a piston engine IFR helicopter that set many records and gained IFR Certification.

The Cessna CH-1 Skyhook was certified for IFR flight by the FAA
No doubt your memory and expertise exceeds mine. The claim "first" is usually dubious.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 16:21
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SH284WE

And of course the one off STC only for serial # 1005 . I wonder if this AS350-D is still flying

see also
SH284WE
SH4099SW
SH4669SW
SH8780SW-D
AND sr08244RC

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Old 8th Aug 2019, 16:28
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Originally Posted by helops View Post
https://helihub.com/2019/08/08/genes...certification/

Is it really IFR certified? Certified by whom?
At least, in this artice they're not claiming "first":
The TH-119 is the only single-engine helicopter in decades to meet current IFR requirements, ...
So the seem to know about the Gazelle (and mabye even the CH-1)
;-)

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Old 8th Aug 2019, 22:07
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Ok sorry, my mistake. It's not the first, I know. It's the only IFR single available today.

Well this is a great revolution I guess, hope other models like H125 and Bell 407 will follow this route..
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 01:30
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We were flying IFR B206 back in 2008, probably plenty of others doing the same.
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I think they mean certified as standard by the manufacturer Charles
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 14:14
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I think they mean certified as standard by the manufacturer Charles
the 206 was certified IFR by the manufacturer. I flew an L3 that was IFR configured and certified. Air Methods operated them for years. These days if they still have the IFR kit, they get bought up and stripped out and the weight savings is probably 80 lbs or more.
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 19:17
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Bell 407GXi has achieved IFR certification per verticalmag.com.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 07:35
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IR single engine training - europe

Does anyone know a place in europe where you can do single engine IR training?
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Last one I heard of was in Billund
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Vantage Aviation at Old Sarum offer SE IR Courses on the B206L. Sim portion of the training is done at Starspeed Training Kemble.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 06:26
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Vantage Aviation at Old Sarum offer SE IR Courses on the B206L. Sim portion of the training is done at Starspeed Training Kemble.
I check the price in Vantage Aviation. Its 23.964 + VAT. So around 28,800 pounds + Longranger type rating. I assume that TR its around 6,000 it giver us 35,000 pounds. For anoyher 6,000 I can get ME IR on AS355 in Norway. Now the question is whether it is worth it? Some advice?
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 21:56
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Originally Posted by flyingnomad View Post

the 206 was certified IFR by the manufacturer. I flew an L3 that was IFR configured and certified. Air Methods operated them for years. These days if they still have the IFR kit, they get bought up and stripped out and the weight savings is probably 80 lbs or more.
Yes, flew one of those as a back-up to our three 412s, N772AM, back in the early 2000s.

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