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helops 8th Aug 2019 11:23

Single engine IFR certified helicopter
 
https://helihub.com/2019/08/08/genes...certification/

Is it really IFR certified? Certified by whom?

SASless 8th Aug 2019 13:26

The US FAA approved the STC.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...s-ifr-approval

MikeNYC 8th Aug 2019 13:38

The title "first" is a bit inaccurate. It's the only CURRENT offering, but there have certainly been other singles that have met IFR requirements.

How quickly we forget.
https://www.rotorandwing.com/2015/06...ne-ifr-helo-2/

Forty years ago, Vought Aircraft and Sperry collaborated to produce the SA-341 IFR Gazelle. This first IFR-certified single-engine helicopter was a breakthrough.
Bell 407 IFR:
http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/fsb/bell407fsb.pdf

And from our own PPRuNe: https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/37...r-capable.html



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Senior Pilot

SASless 8th Aug 2019 14:03

Mike....that was a Johnny Come Lately as well.

Go back further and you will see there ws a piston engine IFR helicopter that set many records and gained IFR Certification.

The Cessna CH-1 Skyhook was certified for IFR flight by the FAA

MikeNYC 8th Aug 2019 15:04


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10540129)
Mike....that was a Johnny Come Lately as well.

Go back further and you will see there ws a piston engine IFR helicopter that set many records and gained IFR Certification.

The Cessna CH-1 Skyhook was certified for IFR flight by the FAA

No doubt your memory and expertise exceeds mine. The claim "first" is usually dubious.

widgeon 8th Aug 2019 16:21

SH284WE
 
And of course the one off STC only for serial # 1005 . I wonder if this AS350-D is still flying

see also
SH284WE
SH4099SW
SH4669SW
SH8780SW-D
AND sr08244RC

( Slow day at the office )

Thracian 8th Aug 2019 16:28


Originally Posted by helops (Post 10540020)
https://helihub.com/2019/08/08/genes...certification/

Is it really IFR certified? Certified by whom?

At least, in this artice they're not claiming "first":

The TH-119 is the only single-engine helicopter in decades to meet current IFR requirements, ...
So the seem to know about the Gazelle (and mabye even the CH-1)
;-)

Thracian


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helops 8th Aug 2019 22:07

Ok sorry, my mistake. It's not the first, I know. It's the only IFR single available today.

Well this is a great revolution I guess, hope other models like H125 and Bell 407 will follow this route..

Ascend Charlie 9th Aug 2019 01:30

We were flying IFR B206 back in 2008, probably plenty of others doing the same.

Autonomous Collectiv 9th Aug 2019 07:53

I think they mean certified as standard by the manufacturer Charles

flyingnomad 9th Aug 2019 14:14


Originally Posted by Autonomous Collectiv (Post 10540646)
I think they mean certified as standard by the manufacturer Charles

the 206 was certified IFR by the manufacturer. I flew an L3 that was IFR configured and certified. Air Methods operated them for years. These days if they still have the IFR kit, they get bought up and stripped out and the weight savings is probably 80 lbs or more.

KqQNr 15th Aug 2019 19:17

Bell 407GXi has achieved IFR certification per verticalmag.com.

RichiRich 9th Sep 2019 07:35

IR single engine training - europe
 
Does anyone know a place in europe where you can do single engine IR training?

paco 9th Sep 2019 12:58

Last one I heard of was in Billund

Taranto Knight 9th Sep 2019 13:52

Vantage Aviation at Old Sarum offer SE IR Courses on the B206L. Sim portion of the training is done at Starspeed Training Kemble.

RichiRich 10th Sep 2019 06:26


Originally Posted by Taranto Knight (Post 10565658)
Vantage Aviation at Old Sarum offer SE IR Courses on the B206L. Sim portion of the training is done at Starspeed Training Kemble.

I check the price in Vantage Aviation. Its 23.964 + VAT. So around 28,800 pounds + Longranger type rating. I assume that TR its around 6,000 it giver us 35,000 pounds. For anoyher 6,000 I can get ME IR on AS355 in Norway. Now the question is whether it is worth it? Some advice?

tottigol 10th Sep 2019 21:56


Originally Posted by flyingnomad (Post 10540940)

the 206 was certified IFR by the manufacturer. I flew an L3 that was IFR configured and certified. Air Methods operated them for years. These days if they still have the IFR kit, they get bought up and stripped out and the weight savings is probably 80 lbs or more.

Yes, flew one of those as a back-up to our three 412s, N772AM, back in the early 2000s.


helops 6th Mar 2020 14:52

Any news about Single Engine IFR so far?

havick 6th Mar 2020 18:05


Originally Posted by helops (Post 10704892)
Any news about Single Engine IFR so far?

What news? The 119 is now SPIFR from the factory if you want it. 2 year wait for delivery.

noooby 6th Mar 2020 19:39


Originally Posted by KqQNr (Post 10546159)
Bell 407GXi has achieved IFR certification per verticalmag.com.

Yes it has but only the 119 achieved IFR cert without any exemptions. I believe the 407 had to apply for two exemptions to get the IFR certification. The Koala complied with all requirements of the certification.


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