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Old 13th February 2019 | 17:05
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Originally Posted by Gordy
Again, it is about the level of experience. TOPS operators believe that a 1,000 hour pilot is more experienced than a 200 hour pilot. He/she has flown more, (obviously) and is probably better equipped to handle an emergency should one occur. Take a look at drivers--the rental companies will not rent to anyone under the age of 25.....why do you think that is? Your insurance is higher if you have a teen driver in the house.....same principle. You said you flew in Oregon, by the same principle who is better equipped to drive in the snow---with your family in the back of the car: a teenager who has been driving for a year, or someone mid-20's lets say that has been driving for 8 year?

When you have a few thousand hours, I challenge you to look back and compare your skill level at 400 hours, and you will notice a difference in both physical skill and attitude.
Sure more experience is generally better. Requiring 1,000 hours to give rides though, when that 200 hour pilot is teaching newbies (a far more dangerous occupation) is utterly ridiculous.

,...but I guess as long as there's a pilot surplus, you can be as ridiculous as you want. A few thousand hours and I won't be flying as safe and leisurely as giving rides!
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Old 13th February 2019 | 17:07
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A good article about and by Gordy and his work on behalf of the Industry.


https://www.heliopsmag.com/gordy-cox...9Mh4Pq2lVk4bSM
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Old 13th February 2019 | 17:15
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
Sure more experience is generally better. Requiring 1,000 hours to give rides though, when that 200 hour pilot is teaching newbies (a far more dangerous occupation) is utterly ridiculous.

,...but I guess as long as there's a pilot surplus, you can be as ridiculous as you want. A few thousand hours and I won't be flying as safe and leisurely as giving rides!
A student is going into the industry eyes open---they should have done their due diligence. The general public showing up for a helicopter ride has an expectation of higher standard. TOPS operators CHOOSE to operate to a higher standard.

Hey, if you do not like it, do not go work for a TOPS operator...plain and simple. There are plenty of non-TOPS operators out there, no one s forcing you to do anything.
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Old 13th February 2019 | 17:20
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The 200 Hour Pilot teaching a new student pilot....now that fills me with absolute comfort.

Passing along one's experience is part of instructing.

Thus....I would question just what is being passed along?
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Old 13th February 2019 | 18:22
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Originally Posted by SASless
The 200 Hour Pilot teaching a new student pilot....now that fills me with absolute comfort.

Passing along one's experience is part of instructing.

Thus....I would question just what is being passed along?
Welcome to America
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Old 13th February 2019 | 19:48
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Welcome to America
Not just America. Try most places around the world.
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Old 14th February 2019 | 01:29
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Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ
Not just America. Try most places around the world.
I was under the impression that places like Europe, Australia, Canada, and such didn't let newbies with no experience teach?
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Old 14th February 2019 | 01:44
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Robbiee,

Regarding your recent posts, you have clearly dug yourself a hole... suggest you don’t dig it any deeper. Gordy and SASless have responded to your somewhat argumentative posts in a very professional manner which seem to me just gentle advice on how to progress with your flying career.....
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Old 14th February 2019 | 17:49
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I was under the impression that places like Europe, Australia, Canada, and such didn't let newbies with no experience teach?
Not from what I have seen.
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