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Old 8th Jan 2019, 19:58
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Originally Posted by Beafer View Post
It might be an idea to give each Lord a high viz vest and camping chair. They could then be dropped off at the perimeter fences at Gatwick and Heathrow airports. It would be one way to earn the £300 per day which they currently receive off the tax payers!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ards-work.html
Only if they claim it. Not all do.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 20:55
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Originally Posted by timex View Post
I was told recently that itís almost double that number, not including others who are unhappy and may be jumping ship..
It wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 8th Jan 2019, 21:18
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Net guns!! don't our antipodean members have form Wazzing around low level in 500s with doors off, could be what the lady was thinking


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Old 9th Jan 2019, 09:20
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You don't need a net, just an MD500

oh dear, can't post a facebook link, just google "MD500 downs drone"
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 01:55
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Danger FFF......

No wonder the country's in the state it is ! Mind blowing far beyond belief ,it's not drones that needing netted .
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 18:54
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Is there a date for the P68 deliveries? Seems like they've been on order for years?
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 21:28
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In service by January 2020, according to this:
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/..._july_2018.pdf
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Old 15th Jan 2019, 21:52
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Their new hangar will be due for a refurb by then!
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 19:40
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Originally Posted by MightyGem View Post
In service by January 2020, according to this:
https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/..._july_2018.pdf
I won't comment on the delay to fixed wing aircraft and the obvious costs incurred in that delay but it looks from your link as though 11784 jobs were stood down before the arrival of the aircraft in just 7 months. Surely I've read that wrong: over 1600 jobs a month, 55 jobs a day. That can't be right, can it?
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Old 16th Jan 2019, 19:51
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That can't be right, can it?
Well they could being economical with the truth and it could be more.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 12:26
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Originally Posted by 500e View Post
Net guns!! don't our antipodean members have form Wazzing around low level in 500s with doors off, could be what the lady was thinking
https://youtu.be/bKWvsS-z9PU
In the UK, I expect that could only work somewhere like Unst, and only because it's "a long way from Gatwick".
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 00:29
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Originally Posted by helimutt View Post
ATPL,IR,MULTI,P1 EXPERIENCE, and they're paying £55k?
To be fair, you only require a CPL(H) IR and 500 hours P1, which is pretty low for the nature of Police Air Support. Sadly, thereís no real incentive for NPAS to increase their wages, as the likes of SAS, Babcock Onshore etc donít pay much more and do much less flying. The whole onshore world needs a shake up regarding pay, which will only happen when thereís a huge pilot shortage.
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Old 18th Jan 2019, 19:28
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and 500 hours P1
That's overland, plus a requirement of "a significant proportion of low flying".

Can't think why they say that a type rating on MD 902 would qualify someone's NPAS don't have any anymore.
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Old 19th Jan 2019, 14:23
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Babcock have private healthcare insurance (invaluable), loss of licence and many other benefits, including a small annual bonus. That package is worth a few grand.
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Old 20th Jan 2019, 08:03
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Npas pay extra for working bank hols, if you work all 8/9 depending on the year and how your roster falls that's worth a few grand too, or taken as days back into your leave pot plus half cash! Npas also have loss of licence. The pension is far better as well.
The pay however, for ALL the onshore players is disgraceful..(as mentioned above)...two choices available..keep lowering the hours and skill levels, until someone has an accident, or raise the pay significantly to attract and more importantly retain the right pilots.
The number of retirements onshore, (and for that matter offshore too) is making big holes in the numbers of pilots available, and also with the fixed wing world booming, and no one in their right mind spending money on a cpl H, the raise in salary is the only thing that will fix the shortage onshore.
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Old 21st Jan 2019, 16:52
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Originally Posted by jayteeto View Post
Babcock have private healthcare insurance (invaluable), loss of licence and many other benefits, including a small annual bonus. That package is worth a few grand.
Private Healthcare - Yes and yes invaluable
Loss of licence - Yes but an inadequate policy for the single pilot
Many other benefits - Many? no but some; although much are worthless and difficult to access
Small annual bonus - not anymore (unless you're management)

However, that aside, they're an awful company to work for, which is why a number of engineers, pilots and support staff appear to be leaving.

On a positive note, there are vacancies....!
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 21:15
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It seems that the 2017/18 NPAS Annual Report was published back in December, although there is no sign of it here:
http://npas.police.uk/about-us/npas-annual-reports

However, it does appear here over on PANews:
http://www.policeaviationnews.info/i...l%20Report.pdf

One thing that stands out, or not, is a total lack of the words "fixed wing". Absolutely no mention at all. None whatsoever. Nada. Nil.

As usual they make a big thing of their Performance data quoting achieving response times for Priority 1 tasks(on scene within 20mins of lifting) of 96-98% where the target is 85%. However, things aren't all they seem. In 2017/18 they completed 22,410 actioned calls(where they respond to a request and arrive on scene before the request is cancelled) for service and over 16,000 flying hours(although they told me 14,200 back in October).

In 2016/17, they completed 26,856 actioned calls, so a drop of 4446, or 16%, with 18,000 hours, so the downward spiral continues. A quote from January's PANews says; "Unfortunately the customers believe they are getting a vastly inferior service."
http://www.policeaviationnews.info/i...anuary2019.pdf

A bit of an understatement, I think, considering that all Police Forces paid NPAS exactly the same for 2017/18 as they did for 2016/17.


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Old 25th Jan 2019, 23:48
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It was always going to be thus! You simply cannot reduce both the fleet and the bases by over a third, AND get rid of all the enthusiastic and dedicated crews that formed the basic framework of UK Police Air Support, and ever hope to deliver anything like what existed before!

In theory the concept of a national Police Air wing (If delivered Regionally) was a world beater. But once the bean counters - Characters that considered the cost above all else, but knew nothing about the value of anything, took over, the whole idea was going to hell in a handcart!

I will never forgive them for that. Its not even as if they weren't warned about what was going to happen. Slash & Burn was their only mantra!

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Old 29th Jan 2019, 16:31
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NPAS Boreham have tweeted that they are closing down their Twitter account from January 31 and therefore bringing to an end the fantasy that they represented another base ..... a bit like Doncaster, not much going on their either.
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