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Old 6th Aug 2017, 02:03
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gulliBell,


Are they bringing in new machines like the for the Navy contract?
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Are they bringing in new machines like the for the Navy contract?
Not new ones..
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..Are they bringing in new machines like the for the Navy contract?
I don't know if they're bringing in a new machine for this contract. It's only for one helicopter. Esso were self-sufficient for their own SAR requirements in Bass Strait for 50 years. However since they recently replaced six S76's with four new AW139's they can no longer cover their own SAR. Hence why CHC are picking up the slack for them. I don't know why Esso just don't go and buy another AW139. The monthly standing charge on a contractor supplied SAR capability will be costing them plenty. Anyway, the cost is just barrels of oil.
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Cracking paint job on the Esso machines.


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Yep. Quite a radical departure from their traditional red, white and blue paint scheme.

Good to see new helicopters being brought into Australia. I wonder if we've seen the last new S76 delivered into Australia. AW is taking over the helicopter world. Queensland Rescue, Toll, and now Esso all buying new AW139.

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I think we have, compared to the AW139 the S-76D is smaller, slower, more expensive and with less range.


Until the H160 comes on line, you won't see another medium coming into the country.
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I think you will find that there will be 2 x AW189 aircraft able to be configured as LIMSAR in Australia by the end of 2017.
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At the expense of being the only one that dosnt know what is LIMSAR I will ask, I have the SAR but sorted but don't know about the LIM.
What company is this for.
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At the expense of being the only one that dosnt know what is LIMSAR I will ask, I have the SAR but sorted but don't know about the LIM.
What company is this for.
Limited. Basically, day only and with fewer bells and whistles. Typically with a non-dedicated crew.
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As this thread is in regards to the SAR contract, what requirements what does the actual contact require?
Yes its bound to be day/night and only offshore?
Is the SAR A/C going to be utilised for Medevacs.
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 10:31
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As this thread is in regards to the SAR contract, what requirements what does the actual contact require?
One aircraft, 5 days per week, day time only. There is no night offshore flying in Bass Strait, except in an emergency. Esso can look after night standby themselves without needing a contractor, as they've always done.
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A quick question, if HNZ were conducting winching in any form weather it be for training or for real, then if as some of you say, it wasn't on their AOC, I take it that it would have invalidated their insurance ?
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Old 6th Aug 2017, 11:05
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...I take it that it would have invalidated their insurance ?
Just my wild guess, winching despite winching not being on their AOC probably wouldn't invalidate their insurance. No different to a pilot busting whatever rules and having a prang, the insurance still pays out the loss.
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As this thread is in regards to the SAR contract, what requirements what does the actual contact require?
Yes its bound to be day/night and only offshore?
Is the SAR A/C going to be utilised for Medevacs.
Which contract? Broome HNZ SAR is 24 hour Medevac with day winch (LIMSAR) using dedicated crew. Will become 24 hour SAR Medevac Q1 2018
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Which contract? Broome HNZ SAR is 24 hour Medevac with day winch (LIMSAR) using dedicated crew. Will become 24 hour SAR Medevac Q1 2018
If HNZ/PHI can get the relevant CASA approval for conduction 4 axis auto hover let downs in IFR conditions...
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Numpy - Lots of HNZ knocking here. HNZ has the experience and Bristows got it so it must mean that someone in CASA can grant it.
Hey my Brother, I am not HNZ bashing...I bash all companies equally!
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... Will become 24 hour SAR Medevac Q1 2018
BHL are still providing 24 hour medevac and day winch for Inpex and Shell, 3 months after HNZ/PHI were supposed to commence the contract... I wouldn't hold your breath!!
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There are plenty of people who will claim to be SAR experienced and SAR capable - only to be caught out when the chips are down. An easy label to claim but not an easy one to own properly.
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Hmmm... Just heard that HNZ failed their CASA audit and Bristow have been stood up to provide SAR services...
Maybe these two statements are linked and CASA are doing what CASA they are mandated to do.
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I don't know why Esso just don't go and buy another AW139. The monthly standing charge on a contractor supplied SAR capability will be costing them plenty
The expense and trouble of keeping crews up to speed for the task, particularly night I would guess. The company is very risk adverse.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 05:50
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The cost to ESSO for the contractor (CHC) would be minimal as they are just using the aircraft and crew already being provided as SAR standby for the RAAF at East Sale.
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