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Bell 412 fuel leak in Cargolux 747-8F

Old 12th Jul 2018, 11:22
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Originally Posted by 212man View Post
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aaib...47-8r7f-lx-vcf

I think the expression "a catalogue of errors" is an understatement!
Yes something of a cockup with Bristow not coming out of it well! A case of too many cooks and no-one actually in charge, resulting in an absolutely basic error (and leaving the battery in was a bad idea too). I wonder if anyone will get prosecuted under the DGRs.
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 12:07
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The shipper/handling agent appear to have been negligent at the very least. Unless I'm drawing the wrong conclusion from the report Bristow simply handed the aircraft over to them for preparation and movement.

Either way it was a potentially very dangerous result and a lot of work to clear up.

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A helicopter flying that high is sure to suffer a nosebleed!
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So, who is likely liable to pay for repairing the Cargolux freighter?
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 11:12
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Notwithstanding the issue of where the contractual commitment for preparation and defuellingof the helicopter lay, the disassembly of the helicopter and preparations for its transporttook place at the sellerís facility and were conducted by its staff, despite a substantialamount of fuel remaining on the helicopter.
That sounds like the blame is with Bristow and the safety recommendation goes in the same direction.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 12:54
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So, who is likely liable to pay for repairing the Cargolux freighter?
The insurance company.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 13:09
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The insurance company.
The insurer of the company that prepared the helicopter for transport, or the insurer of the damaged aircraft?
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 14:54
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Originally Posted by gulliBell View Post
The insurer of the company that prepared the helicopter for transport, or the insurer of the damaged aircraft?
Any insurer will try recover costs.
Those responsible for cargolux will no doubt go after both the shipping agent and shipper for negligence.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 16:41
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Originally Posted by HeliComparator View Post


Yes something of a cockup with Bristow not coming out of it well! A case of too many cooks and no-one actually in charge, resulting in an absolutely basic error (and leaving the battery in was a bad idea too). I wonder if anyone will get prosecuted under the DGRs.
If sealed Lead Acid then no problem leaving it in providing disconnected.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 18:07
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If sealed Lead Acid then no problem leaving it in providing disconnected.
they are normally NiCd are they not?
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 05:40
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Originally Posted by HeliComparator View Post

they are normally NiCd are they not?
From factory yes, but TSO conversion to Lead Acid available We use Concorde in Bell 412EP. Maintenance free and binned/replaced after two years.
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 18:12
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I think the point is that many items fitted to live aircraft become dangerous goods when they become freight.
​​Obvious examples are batteries, sqibs, oxygen cylinders,fire extinguishers, in fact any compressed gas cylinder.
In recent years we have shipped numerous helicopters by air,road and sea. Complete defuel is always item one on the to do list.
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 03:08
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Complete defuel is always item one on the to do list
Been involved in delivering two aircraft for international export on a 747Combi, and one aircraft flown onto the wharf for loading on a roll on roll off ship, in all cases they were defuelled.
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