Bell 412 fuel leak in Cargolux 747-8F

[HeliComparator]

Originally Posted by 212man

https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aaib...47-8r7f-lx-vcf

I think the expression "a catalogue of errors" is an understatement!

Yes something of a cockup with Bristow not coming out of it well! A case of too many cooks and no-one actually in charge, resulting in an absolutely basic error (and leaving the battery in was a bad idea too). I wonder if anyone will get prosecuted under the DGRs.

[SASless]

Gross Stupidity is a concept that springs to mind!

Signing off Legal Documents you know to be false is frowned upon!

[Nigerian Expat Outlaw]

The shipper/handling agent appear to have been negligent at the very least. Unless I'm drawing the wrong conclusion from the report Bristow simply handed the aircraft over to them for preparation and movement.

Either way it was a potentially very dangerous result and a lot of work to clear up.

NEO

[ShyTorque]

A helicopter flying that high is sure to suffer a nosebleed!

[gulliBell]

So, who is likely liable to pay for repairing the Cargolux freighter?

[whoknows idont]

Notwithstanding the issue of where the contractual commitment for preparation and defuellingof the helicopter lay, the disassembly of the helicopter and preparations for its transporttook place at the seller’s facility and were conducted by its staff, despite a substantialamount of fuel remaining on the helicopter.

That sounds like the blame is with Bristow and the safety recommendation goes in the same direction.

[B2N2]

Originally Posted by gulliBell

So, who is likely liable to pay for repairing the Cargolux freighter?

The insurance company.

[gulliBell]

Originally Posted by B2N2

The insurance company.

The insurer of the company that prepared the helicopter for transport, or the insurer of the damaged aircraft?

[Bell_ringer]

Originally Posted by gulliBell

The insurer of the company that prepared the helicopter for transport, or the insurer of the damaged aircraft?

Any insurer will try recover costs.
Those responsible for cargolux will no doubt go after both the shipping agent and shipper for negligence.

[Salusa]

Originally Posted by HeliComparator

Yes something of a cockup with Bristow not coming out of it well! A case of too many cooks and no-one actually in charge, resulting in an absolutely basic error (and leaving the battery in was a bad idea too). I wonder if anyone will get prosecuted under the DGRs.

If sealed Lead Acid then no problem leaving it in providing disconnected.

[HeliComparator]

Originally Posted by Salusa

If sealed Lead Acid then no problem leaving it in providing disconnected.

they are normally NiCd are they not?

[Salusa]

Originally Posted by HeliComparator

they are normally NiCd are they not?

From factory yes, but TSO conversion to Lead Acid available We use Concorde in Bell 412EP. Maintenance free and binned/replaced after two years.

[ericferret]

I think the point is that many items fitted to live aircraft become dangerous goods when they become freight.
​​Obvious examples are batteries, sqibs, oxygen cylinders,fire extinguishers, in fact any compressed gas cylinder.
In recent years we have shipped numerous helicopters by air,road and sea. Complete defuel is always item one on the to do list.
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[megan]

Complete defuel is always item one on the to do list

Been involved in delivering two aircraft for international export on a 747Combi, and one aircraft flown onto the wharf for loading on a roll on roll off ship, in all cases they were defuelled.