NPAS 2017 news

[Thomas coupling]

So a 9 hour operation for the FW then, during the winter.
4 police units based there eh?
Almost a quarter of the NPAS fleet in one aerodrome.
Hope their security is sound!

[PANews]

That may be jumping the gun a little but it seems a potential scenario among others. Clearly what was laid out on launch day is way gone outtahereso effectively anything goes.

NPAS has a new press release out about North Weald .... uniquely it seems to have been announced on the PAN Facebook page as well as their ownwebsite.

Lummy.

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If they get a yes they can pay for the ILS etc down the line ....... it might be cheap compared to the ongoing cost of making the 30-years old P68 fully IFR. Most police and ambulance units had to have relatively simple IL systems fitted over the years so its is just a bigger version of that.

they should just invest in the aircraft fit and go for PBN approaches - far cheaper than installing and maintaining an ILS.

[Fly_For_Fun]

Is the roll out of the fixed wing replacement service for all the helicopter base closures, on schedule and within budget? It all seems to have gone a bit quiet.

[Sky Sports]

replacement service for all the helicopter base closures, on schedule and within budget?

Where to begin?????

Remember the last round of base closures? The ones that wouldn't close until the fixed wing was up and running to seamlessly take over the service. Looks like they couldn't wait that long!

[Thomas coupling]

So have more sites closed now?

How many left then? FFS

[Fly_For_Fun]

The question should be "How many more will close?"
and, where is the 2016/17 report?

[PANews]

Originally Posted by Fly_For_Fun

The question should be "How many more will close?"
and, where is the 2016/17 report?

If the North Weald project gets the go ahead - and the atmosphere in the village is positive - there would be little point in keeping on Boreham as it is already surrounded by gravel workings and was doomed under the 2012 plan anyway. That would save money and make some sense.
The quoted 20000 movements at NW is way more than the current London unit needs so would allow its expansion into a super base later.

[Rotate too late]

Originally Posted by PANews

If the North Weald project gets the go ahead - and the atmosphere in the village is positive - there would be little point in keeping on Boreham as it is already surrounded by gravel workings and was doomed under the 2012 plan anyway. That would save money and make some sense.
The quoted 20000 movements at NW is way more than the current London unit needs so would allow its expansion into a super base later.

Mate, agreed, but, it would seem rather premature to have shut Wattisham in that case as NW is even FURTHER from Suffolk Norfolk and Cambridge than Boreham is at the moment! 22 Sqn Hanger anyone?
Did someone say ILS, fire cover AND fences with people with guns?!

[PANews]

Originally Posted by Rotate too late

Mate, agreed, but, it would seem rather premature to have shut Wattisham in that case as NW is even FURTHER from Suffolk Norfolk and Cambridge than Boreham is at the moment! 22 Sqn Hanger anyone?
Did someone say ILS, fire cover AND fences with people with guns?!

Any stand alone NPAS site comes with fences and the others are extras that not all have. As far as I know, except for those on RAF stations, none require guns or hi-tech fire cover. Fire cover for the police and AA could be a talking point with the local fire crew. It is the fixed wing ILS that might be the radical departure that is going to cost real money especially as the location (yet to be agreed of course) has significant altitude restrictions in being under the Stansted flight path and is also just north of the Lambourne LHR stack by Stapleford.

[wigglyamp]

Surely you'd get a GPS LPV approved at North Weald rather than installing an ILS? This would save the long term maintenance and calibration costs associated with an ILS ground installation. The French are in the process ditching 33 ILS installations at regional airports in favour of LPV approaches. The P68 aircraft should be capable of LPV to an equivalent ILS CAT 1 minima with the current avionics fit.

[MightyGem]

NPAS so short of staff that they are recruiting retiring pilots and TFOs as civilian TFOs.

[Sloppy Link]

A very selective choice of words designed to do nothing but cause mischief. Unsurprisingly disappointed.

[MaxR]

Originally Posted by Sloppy Link

Unsurprisingly disappointed.

Sloppy, you may have unwittingly hit upon the perfect strapline there:

NPAS - Unsurprisingly Disappointed

[skydiver69]

The Police Oracle is reporting that NPAS is trying to make the case for a larger budget and fleet replacement following a year of 'unprecedented demand' such as Grenfell and the two London terror attacks.

https://www.policeoracle.com/news/po...isk_96043.html

[Thomas coupling]

So how's the unfair dismissal case going against NPAS, then.....

[MightyGem]

Ha! Chickens come home to roost.

Costs/hours figures for 2016/7 to appear shortly

[ShyTorque]

Hey look, someone could make themself a career out of building an effective police aviation service....

...and around we go again!

[Pan Euro]

I know lets get some more bases and aircraft and make sure we give a good service.....oh we did that before didn't we!! This just proves what a total waste of money NPAS has been and we will now end up with no service or spending shed loads of cash to try and get back to what worked. Amateurs should not mess where they know nothing.

[Rotate too late]

I’m not pre NPAS, so can’t comment on that, but, I know an organisation that’s below critical mass when I see one. But I get the feeling that the only people that really give shit are in the dwindling bases....from Theresa Mays lovechild Amber to the ever expanding “leadership” there seems to be a rather unfortunate lack of appetite to spend on supporting the guys and girls on the ground....quelle suprise!