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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 00:19
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why are you guys so concerned with my age?, I'm not telling you what to do regarding your oil company.
Sorry, missed that bit. Because you are a ******* child, that's why!
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 00:29
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If by saying that low oil prices depress the offshore helicopter business is upsetting people than I can't help you there.
Have a chat with those being made redundant and discover what the word "upset" means.
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 01:27
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Chris I think what people are getting at isn't the question nor the subject it is the perceived attitude coming across. Don't forget the vast majority of communication we as human beings use is body language and tone of voice, none of that here. One thing I certainly learnt the hard way was when typing, be it email or forum, err on the softer side so people don't read it the wrong way.

None of us can really tell you what to do, but when the names here give me a suggestion or advice I damn well take heed. Go through rotor heads a bit and you will see the same few names appear with good sage advice. I wish my teen/twenties had been half as interesting as some of theirs. It will also help you build your professional persona if you are indeed wanting to fly in their playground.

Good luck.

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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 02:26
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Originally Posted by 212man View Post
Have a chat with those being made redundant and discover what the word "upset" means.
Being made redundant lol, no need to take it out on others. Instead of moaning why don't you look at my thread about electric cars and future oil being $25.
I wonder if you foresaw that being such an industry expert
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 03:12
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Oh, Dear.

Chris, for someone with such a high opinion of himself and who owns so many books your reading comprehension doesn't appear to be too hot. Might want to bone up before you take (or retake, as the case may be) the SAT.

Reading your thread about electric cars (while no doubt fascinating, erudite, and full of pithy bon mots) would perhaps not bring as much comfort to people who are in financial distress due to the industry's economic downturn as you might imagine. But I'll suggest to Elon Musk and those good people in Munich who are reportedly working on electric cars that they move your thread right up on their reading list.

Many of us have seen previous industry downturns and have foreseen the possibility of changes in fossil fuel usage and have planned accordingly. Most international offshore helicopter pilots I know (and I daresay I know a thousand or so more than you do having been one myself) have hedged their bets over the years with other businesses, investments, savings, education & training, financial planning and the like. You might be surprised what you can learn over 1000 cups of coffee in global pilot lounges and the odd pint here and there given time.

Some haven't hedged their bets, but you don't know who those might be and you probably shouldn't presume that you do. At least not until you've held down a job, paid for your own training out of your own earnings or paid for the roof over your head. You lack perspective, experience, and humility. Start with the third of those and you might eventually gain the other two. Fail to embrace that third one and you won't even find the path to get you the other two. Right now I can assure you that you're started down the wrong road.

I was flying one of the aircraft you have posted on your FB page as a cover photo more than a decade before you were born. The very airframe is in my logbook, one of the 5 that I have filled. At that stage of my life I was far more educated, experienced and skilled than you are by about an order of magnitude and I haven't stopped becoming even more so. But even at that I knew and know enough to be aware that there was and is a great deal I do not yet know. I would not have presumed to tell professionals in an industry where I had not so much as a day of real experience how they ought to think. You have no such filter. Better get one.

Most pilots who have survived (both literally and figuratively) for years in helicopters are keenly aware of what they do not know and seek out those who know what they do not. That's why helicopter pilots tend to get along with one another. Almost all of us on this page know one another either from first-hand experience or by reputation via close personal friends and colleagues. That network is incredibly strong and largely self-policing and those of us who are part of it do not take it lightly nor for granted. You forget that at your peril.
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 07:08
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"from the experts"
The economic threshold that the rotorcraft market uses to plan for demand in the offshore sector is about $65 per barrel — a price that’s now very far in the rear view mirror.

“If oil goes higher than $65 per barrel, large energy companies will boost exploration and production, which in turn hikes demand for helicopter transport and the acquisition of new aircraft,” Aboulafia pointed out. “Problem is, oil has remained well below that threshold price all during 2015.”
https://www.verticalmag.com/features...ing-the-storm/
Hmm, confusing..............strange indeed.
Oil economics doesn't require a very high IQ to figure out, I thought heli pilots were smarter than that!
Guess that's why heli pilots don't go into management.
This book should help you
https://www.amazon.com/Crude-Volatil...=oil+economics

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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 07:45
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Chris, you wouldn't be related to "Shell Management" would you? (hint, the old timers will understand).
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 08:32
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 08:49
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strong name. The stupidity level of this forum is too high, I'm going back to vertical reference, see ya later
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 09:25
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Just found a book in the bargain bin at the service station. "How to make friends and influence people" Author Chris Pochari. They were giving them away.....

When you're in a hole, stop digging.
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 09:34
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You guys are so insecure. How does it bother you that a person who has born later than you takes an interest in the offshore helicopter industry? would you rather I don't?
If oil is going to be $25 and the future is electric, which it may well be eventually, why are you taking an interest in such a "dying" industry? Now, off you pop and squeeze your zits like a good boy.
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 09:40
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Originally Posted by Evil Twin View Post
Just found a book in the bargain bin at the service station. "How to make friends and influence people" Author Chris Pochari. They were giving them away.....

When you're in a hole, stop digging.
Hey it aint me who started this ruckus, just a bunch of old grouches with too much time on their hands
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 09:52
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Do you need a bigger shovel?
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 09:55
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Originally Posted by Chris Pochari View Post
Hey it aint me who started this ruckus, just a bunch of old grouches with too much time on their hands
Well here's another old grouch - thought you'd gone back to Vertical Reference, boy? Perhaps you missed the heading of this forum? It says: "Rotorheads. A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them." When you are a helicopter professional perhaps you might be qualified to post here. In the meantime do us all a favour and take your childish tantrums back to Vertical Reference.
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 00:11
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Chris,

My post #22 was truly intended as friendly advice; please mate, you're way out of your depth. There are people on here who make me (with 32 years in the industry) realise how much I still have to learn; that's the whole point, I'll retire knowing that I don't know everything ! Nobody does.

All the best,

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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 02:40
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Is Chris P for real, never heard so much rubbish
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 09:53
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Now I know that the Rotorheads forum can be a tad spirited and sporting but it has never been an uncaring place, ever.

Chris, you may or may-not be right in your claims but please remember that as a guest, yes a guest (The first P in PPRuNe stands for professional) in this forum reasonable standards of decency apply and first and foremost this means being tactful around subjects that involve people's employment and ability for support themselves and family.

There is a lot to learn here and boy are there people who will be happy to share but there are also admins that can ensure that this wealth of experience is locked out to those that do not wish to demonstrate basic levels of empathy to their fellow man.

So please do stay and make the most of the experience here, but equally please do be a little more tactful and considerate.

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