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not too sure if you need a faa licence to fly n reg in forign countrys if you comply with that countrys rules
§91.703 Operations of civil aircraft of U.S. registry outside of the United States.
(a) Each person operating a civil aircraft of U.S. registry outside of the United States shall—
(1) When over the high seas, comply with annex 2 (Rules of the Air) to the Convention on International Civil Aviation and with §§91.117(c), 91.127, 91.129, and 91.131;
(2) When within a foreign country, comply with the regulations relating to the flight and maneuver of aircraft there in force;
(3) Except for §§91.117(a), 91.307(b), 91.309, 91.323, and 91.711, comply with this part so far as it is not inconsistent with applicable regulations of the foreign country where the aircraft is operated or annex 2 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation; and
§91.703 Operations of civil aircraft of U.S. registry outside of the United States.
(a) Each person operating a civil aircraft of U.S. registry outside of the United States shall—
(1) When over the high seas, comply with annex 2 (Rules of the Air) to the Convention on International Civil Aviation and with §§91.117(c), 91.127, 91.129, and 91.131;
(2) When within a foreign country, comply with the regulations relating to the flight and maneuver of aircraft there in force;
(3) Except for §§91.117(a), 91.307(b), 91.309, 91.323, and 91.711, comply with this part so far as it is not inconsistent with applicable regulations of the foreign country where the aircraft is operated or annex 2 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation; and
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EASA/FAA
At the moment some countries granting exemption to fly N reg in their airspace to EASA rated pilots ie UK EASA Licensed pilot to fly in French airspace.
So nothing is clear, at the moment still if you FAA reg helicopter and FAA ticket you can fly anywhere still, that’s my understanding, they are still sorting it out.
So nothing is clear, at the moment still if you FAA reg helicopter and FAA ticket you can fly anywhere still, that’s my understanding, they are still sorting it out.
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MD600. You are quoting from the Chicago convention agreement.
Now Not relevent to aircraft based and or operated within the EU.
It was drawn up circa 1948 to allow free movement of aircraft in and
out and through subscribing countries -- Not live in them.
Now Not relevent to aircraft based and or operated within the EU.
It was drawn up circa 1948 to allow free movement of aircraft in and
out and through subscribing countries -- Not live in them.
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Tim. It IS clear and is already"sorted"out in EASA land. Legislation has been
consulted on and passed through Brussels with minimum objection during
2011/12 Legislation is in place in Europe. The CAA managed to negotiate a
derogation to postpone implementation for a period to allow pilots to get
their EASA licence. ---BUT ALL faa pilots i know have buried their heads
in the sand. Some FAA instructors i know are even encouraging students
to do FAA licences which in the UK will be useless to them. !!!
consulted on and passed through Brussels with minimum objection during
2011/12 Legislation is in place in Europe. The CAA managed to negotiate a
derogation to postpone implementation for a period to allow pilots to get
their EASA licence. ---BUT ALL faa pilots i know have buried their heads
in the sand. Some FAA instructors i know are even encouraging students
to do FAA licences which in the UK will be useless to them. !!!
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I was quoting the FÂA FARS not Chicago convention
You said earlier that you needed a FÂA licence and easa licence to fly n reg in uk so what are the Fâa instructors doing wrong in getting pilots to do the FÂA. Licence. I am now totally confused
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Yea I know.!!!!! FAR regulation being based on the Chicago convention,
what else (outside of US) EASA have moved the goal posts.
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
Please read my posts more carefully and you won"t be confused.
I say AGAIN you need UK EASA and FAA to fly fly outside UK in N-reg.
what else (outside of US) EASA have moved the goal posts.
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
Please read my posts more carefully and you won"t be confused.
I say AGAIN you need UK EASA and FAA to fly fly outside UK in N-reg.
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On the basis that I have flown a lot of hours over 30+ years and have never had to produce my licence , I will continue to fly my N reg on my FAA ticket until I am stopped !! EASA and the CAA are such a bunch of muppets they will never actually be able to find their own arse , let alone come up with a workable solution . They won't be happy until we are all grounded for good !!!
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Nigel. Could not agree more but the poilceman here will be your insurance
company. --- licence not correct NO insurance. have already seen an
insurance company walk away over these licence issues.
(A personal friend who i advised but would not listen) but the bill at least
was only 30k which he had to pay himself.
Had it been 10 million for personal injuries-- well,houses for sale and
personl bankruptcy.
company. --- licence not correct NO insurance. have already seen an
insurance company walk away over these licence issues.
(A personal friend who i advised but would not listen) but the bill at least
was only 30k which he had to pay himself.
Had it been 10 million for personal injuries-- well,houses for sale and
personl bankruptcy.
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Insurance is just a financial contract . If you found someone to insure you knowing your licence was technically incorrect ( but would have no safety impact at all or increase the chance of a claim ) then what would be the problem ?
It would be interesting if say 20/30or 40 pilots all offered to pay say 20% more and all move .....I will bet you could find cover !!!
It would be interesting if say 20/30or 40 pilots all offered to pay say 20% more and all move .....I will bet you could find cover !!!
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Yea I know.!!!!! FAR regulation being based on the Chicago convention,
what else (outside of US) EASA have moved the goal posts.
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
Please read my posts more carefully and you won"t be confused.
I say AGAIN you need UK EASA and FAA to fly fly outside UK in N-reg.
what else (outside of US) EASA have moved the goal posts.
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
Please read my posts more carefully and you won"t be confused.
I say AGAIN you need UK EASA and FAA to fly fly outside UK in N-reg.
i have read your post carefully
you said
MD600. As the regs presently stand you do need the two licences
what part of that have i got wrong
also according to easa you can only have one easa licence are you saying i can get another one from the CAA so i can fly n reg in the uk
what part of that have i got wrong
Claudia ... Calm down !! I'm not advocating anything but just saying it is perfectly possible . I know of some helicopters that worked abroad ( illegally re reg and licences ) and they had insurance cover with the full knowledge of the insurance company . I don't think it would be illegal to offer cover based upon the insurance companies own view of the risk .
If I had an insurance company I wouldn't hesitate to cover a helicopter flying from A to B , even if part of the airspace meant a different licence was required !
( obviously so long as it wasn't an R22 ...!)
If I had an insurance company I wouldn't hesitate to cover a helicopter flying from A to B , even if part of the airspace meant a different licence was required !
( obviously so long as it wasn't an R22 ...!)
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MD600 My posts are based on EASA law and you obviously can"t handle the reality
Best you bury your head in the sand like all the other FAA fraternity.
When it all becomes a reallity and you realise your ignorance i would appreciate an apology.
I am insulted and will say no more on the topic.-- to you
PS At no time did i give "advice" i stated facts as i believed them to be true in open
discussion,hoping to help others.
Best you bury your head in the sand like all the other FAA fraternity.
When it all becomes a reallity and you realise your ignorance i would appreciate an apology.
I am insulted and will say no more on the topic.-- to you
PS At no time did i give "advice" i stated facts as i believed them to be true in open
discussion,hoping to help others.
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i have both EASA and FAA licences and i just asked a question i am not burying my head in the sand
i just wondered if i need to keep the 2 licences or could i just use my easa licence to fly a n reg helicopter in easa land ,please read my posts rather than have a go
my original question
Does this mean to fly n reg in easa land you will need to have 2 licences
One easa and one Fâa
you have given me various answers
MD600. As the regs presently stand you do need the two licences !
UK EASA licence to fly your N-reg in the UK but once you fly out of
the UK to say Fance or indeed any EASA country you are not legal
so you then need the FAA ticket.
no FAA tickets in EASA land
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
why is the uk different to other easa countrys ? at the moment in my easa state of issue country i need to have both licences
i think you will find its me that should be getting an apology
i have both EASA and FAA licences and i just asked a question i am not burying my head in the sand
i just wondered if i need to keep the 2 licences or could i just use my easa licence to fly a n reg helicopter in easa land ,please read my posts rather than have a go
my original question
Does this mean to fly n reg in easa land you will need to have 2 licences
One easa and one Fâa
you have given me various answers
MD600. As the regs presently stand you do need the two licences !
UK EASA licence to fly your N-reg in the UK but once you fly out of
the UK to say Fance or indeed any EASA country you are not legal
so you then need the FAA ticket.
no FAA tickets in EASA land
I did NOT say you need FAA and EASA to fly in UK.
why is the uk different to other easa countrys ? at the moment in my easa state of issue country i need to have both licences
i think you will find its me that should be getting an apology