MD600 Type rating
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From: hayling island
Any one in EASA land that has an ATO on the MD600 and could complete a MD600 Type rating renewal could you please contact me.
I may have a requirement to fly one shortly and looking into the possiblity.
Thank you
I may have a requirement to fly one shortly and looking into the possiblity.
Thank you

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If you can't find a 600 a 500 will do.
Same rating, just needs Diff. for the 600.
https://easa.europa.eu/system/files/...2005082015.pdf
Same rating, just needs Diff. for the 600.
https://easa.europa.eu/system/files/...2005082015.pdf

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From: yorkshire uk
Why not ??!!! I don't really know why anyone bothers with the CAA PPL when the FAA lets you fly almost anything without a pointless rating AND will save you a load on check rides / medicals and even maintenance if you own your own machine !! The madness is that I would have to do around 8 hrs to get my 109 on my CAA licence and I'm flying it every week and have around 400 hrs on it !!
It would take around 20 hrs of training to get all my types back onto my licence ... No wonder people find easier routes !!
It would take around 20 hrs of training to get all my types back onto my licence ... No wonder people find easier routes !!

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From: yorkshire uk
I don't see anything changing soon . There are so many N reg aircraft here and they are doing far more GA flying than G reg . Eventually the CAA and EASA will kill off all G reg GA in this country and the N reg will be all that's left !!!!
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Nigel, It has already changed ! Not an issue of G reg and CAA any more
but an EU mandate already through Brussels. -- even private flying on FAA
Ticket after April 2015 requires a" validation " issued for one year only to
facilitate training to convert to EASA licence. Please tell me i am wrong.
but an EU mandate already through Brussels. -- even private flying on FAA
Ticket after April 2015 requires a" validation " issued for one year only to
facilitate training to convert to EASA licence. Please tell me i am wrong.

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Well I haven't re instated my licence and am flying almost every day !!! I am not aware it is not legal so will continue until someone tells me . Then I will no doubt be instructed by someone with less current hours on type than I have ....it's all nonsense !
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From: hayling island
Latest information notice
IN–2015/028
The CAA has announced that it will be deferring for a year (until 8 April 2016) the UK implementation of European regulations requiring
pilots with a licence issued by a non-EASA country to gain a validation of their licence before they can fly private flights in an EU-registered
aircraft.
But as I said above no one knows when and if this will change as they can't agree in Europe what chance of EASA coming to an agreement with the FAA.
The CAA has announced that it will be deferring for a year (until 8 April 2016) the UK implementation of European regulations requiring
pilots with a licence issued by a non-EASA country to gain a validation of their licence before they can fly private flights in an EU-registered
aircraft.
But as I said above no one knows when and if this will change as they can't agree in Europe what chance of EASA coming to an agreement with the FAA.
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MD600. As the regs presently stand you do need the two licences !
UK EASA licence to fly your N-reg in the UK but once you fly out of
the UK to say Fance or indeed any EASA country you are not legal
so you then need the FAA ticket.
Europe at it"s best.!! maybe we will get out in 2017.
UK EASA licence to fly your N-reg in the UK but once you fly out of
the UK to say Fance or indeed any EASA country you are not legal
so you then need the FAA ticket.
Europe at it"s best.!! maybe we will get out in 2017.

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From: The Welsh Riviera
We have been discussing this in the corporate jet world...
If you fly an N registered aircraft, on a JAR licence you are allowed to do so only in the state of issue of that licence. ie if you have a UK CAA issued JAR licence you would indeed require an FAA ticket to fly to France.
Now then, let's say you now have your shiny new EASA licence. EASA member countries are technically a single state so in theory you can now fly an N registered aircraft in or between any EASA countries. No need for an FAA licence. (So long as the journey does not overfly a non EASA country)
I have asked several people about this (the CAA, several ATOs etc) and no one can give me a definitive answer in support of the above. The guy from the CAA just rubbed his chin thoughtfully and said "hmmm, possibly"!
I don't want to be the first person to have to explain this during a SAFA inspection though....
If you fly an N registered aircraft, on a JAR licence you are allowed to do so only in the state of issue of that licence. ie if you have a UK CAA issued JAR licence you would indeed require an FAA ticket to fly to France.
Now then, let's say you now have your shiny new EASA licence. EASA member countries are technically a single state so in theory you can now fly an N registered aircraft in or between any EASA countries. No need for an FAA licence. (So long as the journey does not overfly a non EASA country)
I have asked several people about this (the CAA, several ATOs etc) and no one can give me a definitive answer in support of the above. The guy from the CAA just rubbed his chin thoughtfully and said "hmmm, possibly"!
I don't want to be the first person to have to explain this during a SAFA inspection though....




