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Old 10th Sep 2015, 19:25
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Smile MD600 Type rating

Any one in EASA land that has an ATO on the MD600 and could complete a MD600 Type rating renewal could you please contact me.
I may have a requirement to fly one shortly and looking into the possiblity.
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If you can't find a 600 a 500 will do.
Same rating, just needs Diff. for the 600.

https://easa.europa.eu/system/files/...2005082015.pdf
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I fly 500 all the time but we have no one that is current on 600 in UK, so cannot get back in
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Can't you do this on your FAA ticket ?
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I can, but cannot do a PC on anyone else with an EASA licence, not everyone wants to change to FAA ticket.
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Why not ??!!! I don't really know why anyone bothers with the CAA PPL when the FAA lets you fly almost anything without a pointless rating AND will save you a load on check rides / medicals and even maintenance if you own your own machine !! The madness is that I would have to do around 8 hrs to get my 109 on my CAA licence and I'm flying it every week and have around 400 hrs on it !!
It would take around 20 hrs of training to get all my types back onto my licence ... No wonder people find easier routes !!
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Nigel, Agree with you 100% but surely all that ends next April,
or have there been further extensions ? (for use of American ticket
in EASA land)
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(FAA TICKET) As far as I know, the Europeans and US have not agreed anything yet so most probably, go on for another year or two
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I don't see anything changing soon . There are so many N reg aircraft here and they are doing far more GA flying than G reg . Eventually the CAA and EASA will kill off all G reg GA in this country and the N reg will be all that's left !!!!
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Tim. I think you are wrong. When in EASA land you are under European law
not American, infact if you fly commercially you are already illegal.
Thats what the caa web site says or am I missing something?
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Nigel, It has already changed ! Not an issue of G reg and CAA any more
but an EU mandate already through Brussels. -- even private flying on FAA
Ticket after April 2015 requires a" validation " issued for one year only to
facilitate training to convert to EASA licence. Please tell me i am wrong.
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Does this mean to fly n reg in easa land you will need to have 2 licences
One easa and one Fâa
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Well I haven't re instated my licence and am flying almost every day !!! I am not aware it is not legal so will continue until someone tells me . Then I will no doubt be instructed by someone with less current hours on type than I have ....it's all nonsense !
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Latest information notice

IN–2015/028

The CAA has announced that it will be deferring for a year (until 8 April 2016) the UK implementation of European regulations requiring
pilots with a licence issued by a non-EASA country to gain a validation of their licence before they can fly private flights in an EU-registered
aircraft.
But as I said above no one knows when and if this will change as they can't agree in Europe what chance of EASA coming to an agreement with the FAA.
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will this affect FAA pilots flying FAA aircraft privately

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Yep. You'll need an EASA license to fly your N-reg.
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Tim. The regulation says " EASA aircraft" not EU registered aircraft.
An EASA aircraft being ANY aircraft regardless of it"s current registration whose type certificate is recognised by EASA.
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yes but will you need to upkeep 2 licences or will one easa one do for flights in easa land on n reg heli
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MD600. As the regs presently stand you do need the two licences !
UK EASA licence to fly your N-reg in the UK but once you fly out of
the UK to say Fance or indeed any EASA country you are not legal
so you then need the FAA ticket.
Europe at it"s best.!! maybe we will get out in 2017.
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We have been discussing this in the corporate jet world...

If you fly an N registered aircraft, on a JAR licence you are allowed to do so only in the state of issue of that licence. ie if you have a UK CAA issued JAR licence you would indeed require an FAA ticket to fly to France.

Now then, let's say you now have your shiny new EASA licence. EASA member countries are technically a single state so in theory you can now fly an N registered aircraft in or between any EASA countries. No need for an FAA licence. (So long as the journey does not overfly a non EASA country)

I have asked several people about this (the CAA, several ATOs etc) and no one can give me a definitive answer in support of the above. The guy from the CAA just rubbed his chin thoughtfully and said "hmmm, possibly"!

I don't want to be the first person to have to explain this during a SAFA inspection though....
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