UK NPAS - The Decline
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Cumbria Police to use UAVs:
HeliHub UK ? Cumbria Police to use UAVs
Good enough reason, I suppose:
HeliHub UK ? Cumbria Police to use UAVs
Good enough reason, I suppose:
Previously the only way officers in Cumbria could gain aerial assistance was to call out a police helicopter from the National Police Air Service. This would not only be a costly resource for the force but it can also be time-consuming.
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NPAS
We have been successful in securing Home Office capital funding to make NPAS a 24/7 all weather capable fleet and this is a real step change for NPAS. This is an investment in the future of policing across England and Wales.
While helicopters are very flexible there are conditions which they are sometimes unable to fly, such as heavy fog, if visibility is too badly affected.
While helicopters are very flexible there are conditions which they are sometimes unable to fly, such as heavy fog, if visibility is too badly affected.
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TC,
NPAS 47 will still be based in S. Wales.
It seems very clear from the press release above that the FW aircraft will be all weather 24/7. Should it turn out not to be the case then surely the West Yorkshire P&CC and NPAS Accountable Officer will need to explain to the public why their money has been wasted?
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NPAS 47 will still be based in S. Wales.
Police air support in the UK is set to become 24/7 all weather capable for the first time with the introduction of fixed wing aircraft into the services fleet.
The National Police Air Service has now awarded a contract for four fixed wing aircraft to be based in a purpose built facility, serving the whole of England and Wales.
The four Vulcanair P.68R airframes will have a 24/7 all-weather flight capability following significant upgrades to the airframe.
The National Police Air Service has now awarded a contract for four fixed wing aircraft to be based in a purpose built facility, serving the whole of England and Wales.
The four Vulcanair P.68R airframes will have a 24/7 all-weather flight capability following significant upgrades to the airframe.
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Ever tried lifting it?
NONE for the whole of Wales?
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Will the PCC still be in power by end of the contract?
There is a story on the web this morning suggesting that he will be bidding for PCC next time around...
Whether he has the right to say 'no deal' is probably the question though. It seems that all parties have to toe the line on police aviation and go NPAS.
There is a story on the web this morning suggesting that he will be bidding for PCC next time around...
Whether he has the right to say 'no deal' is probably the question though. It seems that all parties have to toe the line on police aviation and go NPAS.
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NPAS Annual Report
I seem to recall its not due until after the birthdate of NPAS.... so October.
I am sure it was October last year so I think we might expect it to be next week to coincide with the NPAS launch of the revamped EC135T2 G-SURY/G-POLB at Helitech.
Giving everyone added value at the show.
Who knows it may be the only added value on offer if the Helitech thread is to be believed.
I am sure it was October last year so I think we might expect it to be next week to coincide with the NPAS launch of the revamped EC135T2 G-SURY/G-POLB at Helitech.
Giving everyone added value at the show.
Who knows it may be the only added value on offer if the Helitech thread is to be believed.
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This years report is significantly different in structure than last years, and thinner, a lot less detail. You can't really compare year on year performance if this report writing strategy continues.....also what is interesting is the absence of good work done at the coal face.....
As the overall budget reduces is the management proportion also going to reduce or are we going to have police aviation like the navy, more admirals than ships.....
Meanwhile Forces are procuring UAS's and are generally dissatisfied with the level of service vs investment......
I think NPAS will soon be put out to tender.....maybe tagged onto the SAR contract.
As the overall budget reduces is the management proportion also going to reduce or are we going to have police aviation like the navy, more admirals than ships.....
Meanwhile Forces are procuring UAS's and are generally dissatisfied with the level of service vs investment......
I think NPAS will soon be put out to tender.....maybe tagged onto the SAR contract.
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Mighty Gem wrote:
That'll no doubt be a result of the information being used on here.
Interesting. Last year's report included the Revenue and Capital contributions from each Force. This year's doesn't.
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Asking the Forces that had joined NPAS for the FY 2013/14, FOI requests have given me the following information:
Total paid for Air Support said Forces for the full FY prior to them joining NPAS: £36,087,787
Total Revenue Contributions for FY 2013/14: £27,778,351
Total Revenue Contributions for FY 2014/15: £32,657,594
On top of that are various Capital Payments, in addition to the Revenue Payments, which for 2013/14 were some £9,000,000. These are deducted from Forces annual Home Office grant.
I asked the same Forces how much the were paying for the current FY. Eight Forces failed to reply or didn't know, but of those who did reply, the vast majority said that they were paying the same as last year.
So, not sure where all these savings are occurring, but it doesn't seem to be at individual Force level.
It will be interesting to see what they pay next year when there are on 15 aircraft left.
Total paid for Air Support said Forces for the full FY prior to them joining NPAS: £36,087,787
Total Revenue Contributions for FY 2013/14: £27,778,351
Total Revenue Contributions for FY 2014/15: £32,657,594
On top of that are various Capital Payments, in addition to the Revenue Payments, which for 2013/14 were some £9,000,000. These are deducted from Forces annual Home Office grant.
I asked the same Forces how much the were paying for the current FY. Eight Forces failed to reply or didn't know, but of those who did reply, the vast majority said that they were paying the same as last year.
So, not sure where all these savings are occurring, but it doesn't seem to be at individual Force level.
It will be interesting to see what they pay next year when there are on 15 aircraft left.