UK NPAS discussion thread: Mk 5
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I gather that all the admin and other duties that the soon to be defunct Senior Pilots did, will be done by a non flying Base Manager.
That'll be interesting when the new pilots asks for help in understanding the a/c Performance Graphs and other aviation based problems.
That'll be interesting when the new pilots asks for help in understanding the a/c Performance Graphs and other aviation based problems.
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I gather that all the admin and other duties that the soon to be defunct Senior Pilots did, will be done by a non flying Base Manager.
That'll be interesting when the new pilots asks for help in understanding the a/c Performance Graphs and other aviation based problems
That'll be interesting when the new pilots asks for help in understanding the a/c Performance Graphs and other aviation based problems
So some senior pilot responsibilities will remain with the 'old' senior pilot, but he won't be paid or recognised as such.
Sweet deal.
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From: Northumberland
Home Secretary calls for review into decision to relocate Teesside's police helicopter to Newcastle - Gazette Live
and this from the Northern Echo
and this from the Northern Echo
In response to pleas from Mr Wharton and other MPs, Mrs May has called on the Department of Transport to review the decision due to its expertise developed in relation to search and rescue helicopters.
Her letter to Mr Wharton reads: "This is an operational matter and it is right that chief constables and police and crime commissioners must determine the response to local circumstance. However, given that I have had the issue of the decisions to move some bases brought to my attention by yourself and other MPs, and given the strategic nature of Npas capability, I have decided that I should seek assurance the Npas has designed robustly and will, when implemented, provide proper national coverage of air support."
Her letter to Mr Wharton reads: "This is an operational matter and it is right that chief constables and police and crime commissioners must determine the response to local circumstance. However, given that I have had the issue of the decisions to move some bases brought to my attention by yourself and other MPs, and given the strategic nature of Npas capability, I have decided that I should seek assurance the Npas has designed robustly and will, when implemented, provide proper national coverage of air support."
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Relocation, Search and Rescue Helicopters? 
I'd love to have listened to the brief that Mrs May received from Mr Wharton et al.
I'd love to have listened to the brief that Mrs May received from Mr Wharton et al.
Avoid imitations
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In response to pleas from Mr Wharton and other MPs, Mrs May has called on the Department of Transport to review the decision due to its expertise developed in relation to search and rescue helicopters.
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Goodbye to the Met ASU 
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.. Welcome to NPAS Londinium; aka NPAS Lippitts / NPAS Elstree
the kettle's always on, just bring the biccies
.... Welcome to NPAS Londinium; aka NPAS Lippitts / NPAS Elstree
the kettle's always on, just bring the biccies
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From: Warrington, UK
Well, there's still a pilot shortage. Two bases are going onto 12 hour shifts to give combined cover for their areas. One base does the day shift, one does the night.
Mind how you go, as Richard Littlejohn would say.
Still, gives the guys a nice shift pattern: 2 days/2 nights/ 4 off.
Mind how you go, as Richard Littlejohn would say.
Still, gives the guys a nice shift pattern: 2 days/2 nights/ 4 off.
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From: Waltham Abbey, Essex, UK
This morning a report from Police Oracle that the Mets old Twitter account has morphed into something boring and nothing more than a list of missions since the transfer to NPAS on 'All Fools Day'.
And yes it seems that that is the case.... simply a list of places on the map....and no pretty pictures of their new EC135 toy.
But is it too soon to say that the account is wrecked after less than two weeks? What with the loss of the chosen leadership and a downsize they might be expected to be 'different' for a while.
The question is I guess 'how long is a while?'
And yes it seems that that is the case.... simply a list of places on the map....and no pretty pictures of their new EC135 toy.
But is it too soon to say that the account is wrecked after less than two weeks? What with the loss of the chosen leadership and a downsize they might be expected to be 'different' for a while.
The question is I guess 'how long is a while?'
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PAN: Ahh bless them (the MET) for finally joining the real world (or being dragged into it by the NPAS finally). First the Chief Pilot and then his replacement (both earning in excess of £100,000/annum) have resigned since they saw the writing on the wall. All the aircrews "Principle" civil service pensions will have to go. All their 145's are going. Their debilitating UEO has finally been put in his place and circumvented..............................no wonder they are still sulking.
NPAS has almost finished its first round of herding the strays into the coral and once it successfully manages this latest (and last) round of cutbacks - it can settle down and crack on with the job in hand - which is to run a national police air wing on £50/month courtesy of our glorious leaders in Westminster. Belts suitably tightened and all that eh?
This (I say again) is not a VOTE winning service to the public. NO-ONE on the street doing a normal days' work - CARES.
NPAS has almost finished its first round of herding the strays into the coral and once it successfully manages this latest (and last) round of cutbacks - it can settle down and crack on with the job in hand - which is to run a national police air wing on £50/month courtesy of our glorious leaders in Westminster. Belts suitably tightened and all that eh?
This (I say again) is not a VOTE winning service to the public. NO-ONE on the street doing a normal days' work - CARES.
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From: Waltham Abbey, Essex, UK
Mr Bonkers... of course it was Tuesday but its far better to mention the day they really got into their swing! I mean who would willingly join anything on April 1? I suspect a tactical move.
TC do I detect a lack of sympathy for the fate of Brains?
TC do I detect a lack of sympathy for the fate of Brains?
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From: Banished (twice) to the pointless forest
London airport police to use surveillance drones By Nick Beake
London airport police to use surveillance drones - BBC News
Look, savings, everywhere!
So... a reduction in the number of officers patrolling the airport means a big cost saving.
But......
When weather prohibits drone flights, where do they get more officers at short notice?
George Trebess from the National Counter Terrorism Policing Headquarters said it was also possible that drones could be used during major incidents, including sieges or standoffs involving firearms.
Speaking to security experts at the Counter Terror Expo in London, he said: "The technology is transformative.
"With the new system we will be able to carry out missions around seven times faster than ground-based activity and at around 10% of the cost. We estimate £1.2m would be saved in three years."
It is thought the savings would come through having fewer officers patrolling airports on foot.
Speaking to security experts at the Counter Terror Expo in London, he said: "The technology is transformative.
"With the new system we will be able to carry out missions around seven times faster than ground-based activity and at around 10% of the cost. We estimate £1.2m would be saved in three years."
It is thought the savings would come through having fewer officers patrolling airports on foot.
So... a reduction in the number of officers patrolling the airport means a big cost saving.
But......
When weather prohibits drone flights, where do they get more officers at short notice?
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Reminds me of Duncan Sandy's, Secretary of State for Defense, who said in the early 60's that the RAF would no longer require pilots as all aerial warfare would in future be conducted using rockets!
Yeah, of course it would!
TF
Yeah, of course it would!
TF