Ornge most likely selling its 139 fleet
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Accountability, let me laugh !!
Ho yes, I love this one....
Where we are now is simple: we have to reduce rotor-wing hours because the helicopter is to expensive
50% of the EMS system do not want to use Ornge
.... so, it is great
Where we are now is simple: we have to reduce rotor-wing hours because the helicopter is to expensive
50% of the EMS system do not want to use Ornge.... so, it is great
Arcal, are you aware that operators that are operating the 76 and 139 side by side (granted, C+/C++, not straight A model 76's) are saying that the DOC's are so close to being the same that it isn't even worth considering.
Saying that the 139 is more expensive than the 76 to operate (I believe that is what you are saying??) is not quite accurate. Just about anything is more expensive to operate than a 30 year old 76A. Those things have paid for themselves many times over!
A lot of lost flying time (downtime equates to higher DOC's per flying hour) is a factor of (mis) management at this particular company, so I have been told.
I firmly believe that if the 139 was significantly more expensive to operate than it's competitors, AW wouldn't be selling as many of them as they are, and they still seem to be selling them as fast as they can make them!
Saying that the 139 is more expensive than the 76 to operate (I believe that is what you are saying??) is not quite accurate. Just about anything is more expensive to operate than a 30 year old 76A. Those things have paid for themselves many times over!
A lot of lost flying time (downtime equates to higher DOC's per flying hour) is a factor of (mis) management at this particular company, so I have been told.
I firmly believe that if the 139 was significantly more expensive to operate than it's competitors, AW wouldn't be selling as many of them as they are, and they still seem to be selling them as fast as they can make them!
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ORNGE AT HELI-EXPO
ORNGE arriving at HELI-EXPO Orlando. Probably won't see it this year.
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Is the AW139 an EMS helicopter?
Australian Helicopters’ Managing Director, John Boag, says “the internal dimensions of the AW139 makes them the best choice for primary and secondary EMS applications and the perfect choice for their contract with Ambulance Victoria. The AW139 are faster, can travel longer distances without refueling and utilize state-of-the-art avionic technology. We look forward to our partnership with AgustaWestland in supplying the six new helicopters to assist us to support the Victorian community through Ambulance Victoria and the Victorian Government over the next decade.”
The AW139 is a new generation helicopter that sets new standards of safety, comfort and performance in the intermediate twin-engine helicopter market. Designed with inherent multi-role capability and flexibility of operation, the AW139 has the most spacious cabin and the best power reserve of any helicopter in its class. The internal dimensions of the AW139’s roomy unobstructed cabin make it an ideal choice for EMS applications. The flat floor, large cabin doors and unobstructed cabin provide easy and quick access for stretchers and survivors. The new technology Honeywell Primus Epic® fully integrated avionics package, a 4-axis digital AFCS and large flat panel colour displays in the cockpit, reduce pilot workload and allow the crew to concentrate on the demanding missions they are often tasked to perform.
The AW139 is a new generation helicopter that sets new standards of safety, comfort and performance in the intermediate twin-engine helicopter market. Designed with inherent multi-role capability and flexibility of operation, the AW139 has the most spacious cabin and the best power reserve of any helicopter in its class. The internal dimensions of the AW139’s roomy unobstructed cabin make it an ideal choice for EMS applications. The flat floor, large cabin doors and unobstructed cabin provide easy and quick access for stretchers and survivors. The new technology Honeywell Primus Epic® fully integrated avionics package, a 4-axis digital AFCS and large flat panel colour displays in the cockpit, reduce pilot workload and allow the crew to concentrate on the demanding missions they are often tasked to perform.
Margins, do you know anything about the Aussie EMS contracts? I see that there are two operators getting 139's, Toll and Vic Ambulance.
Are they the same? Toll is for 8 and Vic for 6, but is this just the same contract, or are there actually 14 more 139 EMS ships on the way to Oz?
Are they the same? Toll is for 8 and Vic for 6, but is this just the same contract, or are there actually 14 more 139 EMS ships on the way to Oz?
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Noooby, there is actually :
6 aw139 going to Victoria
8 aw139 going to Toll for Southern NSW
4 aw139 going to Westpac in newcastle for Northern nsw
Unknown amount going to careflight in qld.
So there's atleast 18 confirmed and however many careflight are getting
6 aw139 going to Victoria
8 aw139 going to Toll for Southern NSW
4 aw139 going to Westpac in newcastle for Northern nsw
Unknown amount going to careflight in qld.
So there's atleast 18 confirmed and however many careflight are getting
Margins, do you know anything about the Aussie EMS contracts? I see that there are two operators getting 139's, Toll and Vic Ambulance.
Are they the same? Toll is for 8 and Vic for 6, but is this just the same contract, or are there actually 14 more 139 EMS ships on the way to Oz?
Are they the same? Toll is for 8 and Vic for 6, but is this just the same contract, or are there actually 14 more 139 EMS ships on the way to Oz?
There are currently 16 AW139s on the Australian register.
Careflight and Australian Helicopters, 1 each, EMS
Bristow Helicopters, 4 (offshore)
Queensland State Government, 3 EMS/SAR
Lloyd Helicopters/CHC, 7 but not sure of how many are EMS in NSW
Careflight and Australian Helicopters, 1 each, EMS
Bristow Helicopters, 4 (offshore)
Queensland State Government, 3 EMS/SAR
Lloyd Helicopters/CHC, 7 but not sure of how many are EMS in NSW
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You have to realise that this is not an aviation company but a political animal so of course it costs them more to operate. They are putting new medical interiors in at about 1 mill each so I dont think that they are serious about selling so these kind of press releases are just ways to say to the govt that were looking after the operation and maybe get more money out of them
