Victoria (Australia) HEMS Contract
or the A139 ....
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As someone who enjoys the sound of the bells (gives me ample warning to wander outside to give them a wave) what are the other points of difference in the HEMs role in the Victorian environment between it and the 139?
Mickjoebill
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From: ...in view of the 'Southern Cross' ...
Mmmmm ...
.... what are the other points of difference in the HEMs role in the Victorian environment between it and the 139? ....
Well I would suggest "capability" would be the biggest ... the B412 is really at the end of its development even though Bell would like not to admit it ...
The 139 has a payload & speed advantage and more potential into the future. It is also a bit more capable (but far from perfect) in the single pilot role with respect to SAR, Rescue & IFR ops.
Yes it may well be more expensive to operate ... but the reliability and capability might outweigh that disadvantage.
.... what are the other points of difference in the HEMs role in the Victorian environment between it and the 139? ....
Well I would suggest "capability" would be the biggest ... the B412 is really at the end of its development even though Bell would like not to admit it ...
The 139 has a payload & speed advantage and more potential into the future. It is also a bit more capable (but far from perfect) in the single pilot role with respect to SAR, Rescue & IFR ops.
Yes it may well be more expensive to operate ... but the reliability and capability might outweigh that disadvantage.
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From: UK/OZ
Do any hems operators in the world have the capability to accommodate 2 x stretchers?
As a cfa vol i attended a motorcycle prang in Victoria; rider and pillion passenger versus truck.
Two hems arrived, one for each patient.
One headed north the other south so the couple unded up 100 miles apart.
Plenty of mica support on the ground so i wondered if a larger heli could have accomidated both (assuming the two medicos were capable of monitoring both patients).
I realise the long term cost effectivness of doing it either way depends on how the figures stack up. Are there many instances where two patients need transport?
Mickjoebill
As a cfa vol i attended a motorcycle prang in Victoria; rider and pillion passenger versus truck.
Two hems arrived, one for each patient.
One headed north the other south so the couple unded up 100 miles apart.
Plenty of mica support on the ground so i wondered if a larger heli could have accomidated both (assuming the two medicos were capable of monitoring both patients).
I realise the long term cost effectivness of doing it either way depends on how the figures stack up. Are there many instances where two patients need transport?
Mickjoebill
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From: Gold Coast, Australia
Mjb
All AAV HEMS have the ability to take two stretcher patients, although the second is put fore and aft in an elevated position on the stbd side and has limited access for inflight care.
It is just as important to get the cas to a trauma centre which has the capacity available. Your example of going in opposite directions indicates that (probably) The Alfred could only take one whilst the second was assessed for an alternative trauma unit.
I've been one of two 412s that went to The Alfred from the same incident with a cas on each; and each one needed intensive work by the team on board all the way. You'd need a very large cabin to manage that with two stretchers and two teams.
All AAV HEMS have the ability to take two stretcher patients, although the second is put fore and aft in an elevated position on the stbd side and has limited access for inflight care.
It is just as important to get the cas to a trauma centre which has the capacity available. Your example of going in opposite directions indicates that (probably) The Alfred could only take one whilst the second was assessed for an alternative trauma unit.
I've been one of two 412s that went to The Alfred from the same incident with a cas on each; and each one needed intensive work by the team on board all the way. You'd need a very large cabin to manage that with two stretchers and two teams.
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From: Aarhus
Not to sure about the Toll 139 order. No sign on the unofficial 139 order book site yet.
AgustaWestland AW139 Production List © by: Damiano GUALDONI
This contract was due to be awarded by the end of Feb 14. Maybe they cut the list of potential suppliers down too soon.
AgustaWestland AW139 Production List © by: Damiano GUALDONI
This contract was due to be awarded by the end of Feb 14. Maybe they cut the list of potential suppliers down too soon.