Urban firefighting UK
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From: Liverpool based Geordie, so calm down, calm down kidda!!
Herman, on the button!
They did get involved with a helicopter project, Air Rescue 24. Web site is available through Google. I heard a rumour this week that they may be folding. A good concept, but you would need a BIG helicopter to carry the kit.
Of interest, can anyone spot the big photoshop mistake in their EC145 photograph??? Guess a non aviation person did it.
They did get involved with a helicopter project, Air Rescue 24. Web site is available through Google. I heard a rumour this week that they may be folding. A good concept, but you would need a BIG helicopter to carry the kit.
Of interest, can anyone spot the big photoshop mistake in their EC145 photograph??? Guess a non aviation person did it.
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From: On the Rump of Pendle Hill Lancashi
Why not just have a "Rescue Service" that way many areas covered by one service cost...! simples........... well to me anyway!
Reasons are Police heli seems to be used to find lost souls and people who have not returned to a schedule, .
Air Ambulance all fed by subscriptions also seem to turn out to seemingly simple cases that Road Going Ambulance could achieve, just read the papers and watch TV local news to see what I mean
In Scotland the Military supply big rigs to find people who set out in a gale and are lost, or fall down a Ice covered Mountain.
Putting rescue IE Fire and Ambulance together, would mean just one operating base in strategic areas, a bad example is here in the North West of England, a new fire HQ control center( in Warrington) cost £35m has done away with many others, however the rank of individuals logic and knowledge of areas seems to be played by people who have not thought through their roles, just recently this "New Center" Tasked a Fire engine and crew to travel from Carlisle (North Cumbria) to a Country area (Rivington) between Chorley and Bolton,..... a round trip approaching 250 miles without any loiter time or mileage, but if we had combined Large town centers with "A Rescue Service" attached things like this bad example would or should not happen .
Time to think with joined up thoughts and not with the ideas put up by mega highly paid chiefs when the Indians are not consulted.
Reasons are Police heli seems to be used to find lost souls and people who have not returned to a schedule, .
Air Ambulance all fed by subscriptions also seem to turn out to seemingly simple cases that Road Going Ambulance could achieve, just read the papers and watch TV local news to see what I mean
In Scotland the Military supply big rigs to find people who set out in a gale and are lost, or fall down a Ice covered Mountain.
Putting rescue IE Fire and Ambulance together, would mean just one operating base in strategic areas, a bad example is here in the North West of England, a new fire HQ control center( in Warrington) cost £35m has done away with many others, however the rank of individuals logic and knowledge of areas seems to be played by people who have not thought through their roles, just recently this "New Center" Tasked a Fire engine and crew to travel from Carlisle (North Cumbria) to a Country area (Rivington) between Chorley and Bolton,..... a round trip approaching 250 miles without any loiter time or mileage, but if we had combined Large town centers with "A Rescue Service" attached things like this bad example would or should not happen .
Time to think with joined up thoughts and not with the ideas put up by mega highly paid chiefs when the Indians are not consulted.
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Dear Gordy you may be that Lucky B....d 
but you know, firefighting helicopters sometimes have system called continuous ignition, that adds one or more spark plug(s) into the combustion chamber of their turbo-shaft engines to provide continuous spark when there is a chance of sudden flame out, caused by low oxygen or just plain heat surge....
What are you smoking....? I have flown in the thickest smoke for years and there are no detrimental effects to our engines
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From: Redding CA, or on a fire somewhere
but you know, firefighting helicopters sometimes have system called continuous ignition,
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From: Approaching the MAP
Gordy, it all depends on engine type. And it's not really the smoke that'll cause a flame-out, it's a lack of oxygen. In the S-64 we avoid "the shimmer" like the plague - several flame outs have happened over the years by pilots that flew through the areas of super-heated air that usually also are pockets of air with reduced O2 concentration.
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From: UK
From what I have ben told when the recycling centre in Hertfordshire went up in smoke for the second time and burned for days is that it's simply running to hot with to much fuel feeding the fire and since on top of that it wasn't spreading they were quite happy for it to let it burn itself out.
I don't know anything about the wiltshire one.
The MET only do police ops. They are not even equipped for CASEVACs. Also their cabs are very heavy due to all the kit onboard.
You would be better to charter a helicopter with a bucket for the few times you need it...IMHO.
As for eastbourne didn't they have a boat on the water next to it pumping a fountain of sea water over the fire?
I don't know anything about the wiltshire one.
The MET only do police ops. They are not even equipped for CASEVACs. Also their cabs are very heavy due to all the kit onboard.
You would be better to charter a helicopter with a bucket for the few times you need it...IMHO.
As for eastbourne didn't they have a boat on the water next to it pumping a fountain of sea water over the fire?
