Drones - the future
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FAA is reported to have stopped Lakemaid's (a brewery) plan to use drones for delivery of beer (six-packs) to remote ice-fishing shacks in Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
It seems that Lakemaid Beer posted an online video advertising its drone delivery service, and FAA responded by notifying the company that the idea was a no-go. Lakemaid has now started a petition on WhiteHouse.gov asking FAA to approve its ideas but FAA is not backing down.
Story is here https://www.wnyc.org/story/beer-dron...more-faa-says/
FAA issued this report in 2013 about integrating drones into US airspace http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives...admap_2013.pdf
It seems that Lakemaid Beer posted an online video advertising its drone delivery service, and FAA responded by notifying the company that the idea was a no-go. Lakemaid has now started a petition on WhiteHouse.gov asking FAA to approve its ideas but FAA is not backing down.
Story is here https://www.wnyc.org/story/beer-dron...more-faa-says/
FAA issued this report in 2013 about integrating drones into US airspace http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives...admap_2013.pdf
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FAA can be stick in the muds, can't they?
Finally, technology is available to serve the working man, and the FAA wander in a cock it up.
(Then again, if you need to have beer on hand, buy some ahead of time. Novel thought, that.)
Finally, technology is available to serve the working man, and the FAA wander in a cock it up.
(Then again, if you need to have beer on hand, buy some ahead of time. Novel thought, that.)
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Musicians may also fret over advances in (flying) drone technology:
BBC News - Drone direction: The flying robotic pop band
And good news for deer:
Germany deploys drones to protect young deer from combine harvesters | World news | theguardian.com
BBC News - Drone direction: The flying robotic pop band
And good news for deer:
Germany deploys drones to protect young deer from combine harvesters | World news | theguardian.com
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The cause of this drone's delinquent behaviour is "broken knob"
Cameraman Loses His $15k Quadcopter in the Amazon Rainforest
Mickjoebill
Cameraman Loses His $15k Quadcopter in the Amazon Rainforest
Mickjoebill
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When drones go bad, the new Fox TV series...
I skipped the recent robot special in The Economist but I've gone back to read it as this could be so significant in next 50 years.
Rise of the robots | The Economist
The shift in affordability for aerial photography is remarkable.
Someone else taking a more intentional "dronie":
Drone selfies
I skipped the recent robot special in The Economist but I've gone back to read it as this could be so significant in next 50 years.
Rise of the robots | The Economist
The shift in affordability for aerial photography is remarkable.
Someone else taking a more intentional "dronie":
Drone selfies
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What is being referred to as a "drone" crashed on a beach at Nice this morning.
Three South Koreans are being questioned for operating it without authority. It seems they were using it for film work.
NiceMatin article
Three South Koreans are being questioned for operating it without authority. It seems they were using it for film work.
NiceMatin article
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Caa april 2014 drone advice
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/Informa...ice2014081.pdf
Guidance notes for operators of remote aircraft.
200 operators certified by caa for aerial work with drones in uk.
Mickjoebill
Guidance notes for operators of remote aircraft.
200 operators certified by caa for aerial work with drones in uk.
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Common Sense
And following on from the london document restricting SUA, they also cover FPV (first Person viewing) so whilst drones may be a thing of the future , thankfully they are going to be limited to an empty beach or farmland
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ORS4%20...20Aircraft.pdf
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ORS4%20...20Aircraft.pdf
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I wonder how much of a 'near miss' it really was?
Two drones in near miss with NYPD copter
Two drones in near miss with NYPD copter
Two drones nearly took out an NYPD chopper over the George Washington Bridge on Monday, and cops arrested the wayward devices’ operators, law-enforcement sources told The Post.
The Aviation Unit helicopter was on patrol around 12:15 a.m. when it had to swerve to avoid the small, unmanned aircraft, the sources said.
The NYPD pilots “observed flying object[s] at 2,000 feet in vicinity of the George Washington Bridge, then circling heading toward the helicopter,’’ a police report said.
“The officers were forced to change their course to avoid a collision.”
One source called it a “very dangerous” scenario.
“Although [drones] may only weigh a few pounds, that’s all birds weigh, and look what they did to the Sully Airbus,” the source said, referring to 2009’s “Miracle on the Hudson,” in which a bird strike forced US Airways pilot Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger to crash-land a jetliner in the Hudson River.
The chopper tailed the drones north as they landed at the corner of Audubon and Fort George avenues, near Fort Tryon Park, at 12:35 a.m., sources said.
The chopper cops called NYPD Patrol, and officers were dispatched to nab the suspects.
Remy Castro, 23, who lives on nearby West 193rd Street, and Wilkins Mendoza, 34, of Post Road, were both arrested.
“It’s just a toy,” Castro said later at Manhattan Criminal Court, where they were arraigned on felony reckless endangerment charges and released without bail. “The copter came to us.”
Mendoza said the drone experiment was just fun and games.
“We were just playing with it,” he said. “It’s crazy.”
Their lawyer, Michael Kushner, said the incident was not as serious as authorities allege.
“This vehicle can’t go above 300 feet,” Kushner said. “They did nothing more than fly a kite.”
But a friend of the pair, Jonathan Reyes, 27, said Castro told him they have flown them as high as 5,000 feet.
“When they first got them, everyone was going crazy and saying, ‘That’s some alien stuff!’ ” Reyes recalled.
Reyes said Castro bought a drone two weeks ago and that Mendoza followed suit. They spent $500 to $700 apiece.
They have been having a wild time ever since, flying the drones around the neighborhood each night and posting video of the outings on Instagram.
“They’re fun. They’re a cool pair,” Reyes said of the men. “Everybody who sees [the drones] goes crazy!”
Additional reporting by Kathleen Culliton and Kate Sheehy
The Aviation Unit helicopter was on patrol around 12:15 a.m. when it had to swerve to avoid the small, unmanned aircraft, the sources said.
The NYPD pilots “observed flying object[s] at 2,000 feet in vicinity of the George Washington Bridge, then circling heading toward the helicopter,’’ a police report said.
“The officers were forced to change their course to avoid a collision.”
One source called it a “very dangerous” scenario.
“Although [drones] may only weigh a few pounds, that’s all birds weigh, and look what they did to the Sully Airbus,” the source said, referring to 2009’s “Miracle on the Hudson,” in which a bird strike forced US Airways pilot Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger to crash-land a jetliner in the Hudson River.
The chopper tailed the drones north as they landed at the corner of Audubon and Fort George avenues, near Fort Tryon Park, at 12:35 a.m., sources said.
The chopper cops called NYPD Patrol, and officers were dispatched to nab the suspects.
Remy Castro, 23, who lives on nearby West 193rd Street, and Wilkins Mendoza, 34, of Post Road, were both arrested.
“It’s just a toy,” Castro said later at Manhattan Criminal Court, where they were arraigned on felony reckless endangerment charges and released without bail. “The copter came to us.”
Mendoza said the drone experiment was just fun and games.
“We were just playing with it,” he said. “It’s crazy.”
Their lawyer, Michael Kushner, said the incident was not as serious as authorities allege.
“This vehicle can’t go above 300 feet,” Kushner said. “They did nothing more than fly a kite.”
But a friend of the pair, Jonathan Reyes, 27, said Castro told him they have flown them as high as 5,000 feet.
“When they first got them, everyone was going crazy and saying, ‘That’s some alien stuff!’ ” Reyes recalled.
Reyes said Castro bought a drone two weeks ago and that Mendoza followed suit. They spent $500 to $700 apiece.
They have been having a wild time ever since, flying the drones around the neighborhood each night and posting video of the outings on Instagram.
“They’re fun. They’re a cool pair,” Reyes said of the men. “Everybody who sees [the drones] goes crazy!”
Additional reporting by Kathleen Culliton and Kate Sheehy
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“The officers were forced to change their course to avoid a collision.”
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The Aviation Unit helicopter was on patrol around 12:15 a.m. when it had to swerve to avoid the small, unmanned aircraft, the sources said.
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Mapping a whole forest and perhaps more surprisingly lighting, both with l@sers
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Drones co-locating with helicopters
I am involved in urban search and rescue and there is no doubt in my mind that both helicopters and drones have a place in response to these type of incidents.
As was suggested earlier in the thread, I would agree that in only a few years time, the authorities may well sit in a a control suit piloting a drone for all manner of tasks.
Does that mean helicopters will become obsolete? Of course not, the need to transport personnel and equipment whilst using the advantages of wide area survey will always be there.
However we are exploring the use of drones closer to the collapsed buildings, operating ably a few metres above the structure and not impacting on the rubble.
The simplicity of drones and the vast cost reduction makes them very attractive.
We have even experimented with the cheaper commercial drones, seen by many as toys and yet they produce live feed that can be easily recorded and control on an iPad.
Few people would be more enthusiastic about helicopters and recently drones and I look forward to working with both.
If other have used them in this line of work, I'd be interested to hear from you.
As was suggested earlier in the thread, I would agree that in only a few years time, the authorities may well sit in a a control suit piloting a drone for all manner of tasks.
Does that mean helicopters will become obsolete? Of course not, the need to transport personnel and equipment whilst using the advantages of wide area survey will always be there.
However we are exploring the use of drones closer to the collapsed buildings, operating ably a few metres above the structure and not impacting on the rubble.
The simplicity of drones and the vast cost reduction makes them very attractive.
We have even experimented with the cheaper commercial drones, seen by many as toys and yet they produce live feed that can be easily recorded and control on an iPad.
Few people would be more enthusiastic about helicopters and recently drones and I look forward to working with both.
If other have used them in this line of work, I'd be interested to hear from you.
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FAA give approval for commercial use of UAV
Take a look at this article. It concludes:
"The FAA’s announcement, and the guidance that it has provided as a result of its review of these initial petitions, has proven Section 333 to be a viable avenue for the commercial use of UAS, and opened the door to other businesses seeking to use UAS to support their operations. Indeed, in announcing its grant of these first petitions, the FAA encouraged other businesses to petition the FAA under Section 333.
To date, the FAA has received 45 requests for exemptions under Section 333 from a variety of companies across a range of industries, including agriculture, oil and gas, GIS/mapping, construction, and real estate, as well as pipeline and power line inspectors and surveyors. If your business is considering using UAS, we can help you take advantage of this opportunity and lead the way in your industry."
"The FAA’s announcement, and the guidance that it has provided as a result of its review of these initial petitions, has proven Section 333 to be a viable avenue for the commercial use of UAS, and opened the door to other businesses seeking to use UAS to support their operations. Indeed, in announcing its grant of these first petitions, the FAA encouraged other businesses to petition the FAA under Section 333.
To date, the FAA has received 45 requests for exemptions under Section 333 from a variety of companies across a range of industries, including agriculture, oil and gas, GIS/mapping, construction, and real estate, as well as pipeline and power line inspectors and surveyors. If your business is considering using UAS, we can help you take advantage of this opportunity and lead the way in your industry."
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Then there's this to consider :
RT.com - Question More
Nail
RT.com - Question More
Commercial drones could be invading the UK within 20 years,
used by everyone from terrorists to burglars, an ex-GCHQ boss warns.
It found the growing use of drones raises “significant safety, security and privacy concerns.”
used by everyone from terrorists to burglars, an ex-GCHQ boss warns.
It found the growing use of drones raises “significant safety, security and privacy concerns.”
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Airprox reported, according to BBC
BBC News - Quadcopter drone flew 'too close' to Southend-bound plane
And the report is here
http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/...3%20-%20v2.pdf
BBC News - Quadcopter drone flew 'too close' to Southend-bound plane
And the report is here
http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/...3%20-%20v2.pdf
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25 September 2014: FAA granted six aerial photo and video companies exemptions from FAA regulations according to this article.
The article reports that Astraeus Aerial, Aerial MOB, HeliVideo Productions, Pictorvision Inc., RC Pro Productions Consulting, and Snaproll Media have FAA permission to use small drones “for the purpose of scripted, closed-set filming for the motion picture and television industry.”
Floodgates open?
The article reports that Astraeus Aerial, Aerial MOB, HeliVideo Productions, Pictorvision Inc., RC Pro Productions Consulting, and Snaproll Media have FAA permission to use small drones “for the purpose of scripted, closed-set filming for the motion picture and television industry.”
Floodgates open?
