Video of a 350 crashing into water at Copacabana
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At the risk of sounding confrontational, why is that interesting?
The one on the other thread was debated whether or not it could have happened in flight.
Well, we can see the decaying TR RPM as I said in my previous post, but with no yaw, either the power loss was gradual or the pilot had the reactions of a mongoose. Hitting the water first, the TR was bound to fail and stop. Also, the pilot reported hearing the low RPM horn.
maybe it is the beer, but im pretty sure i can see a small right yaw, combine that with the fact that this helicopter was in a low power deceleration, the unloading of torque would have been minimal at best... well played sir! very nice to see one work out OK!
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Short video of the old girl being flipped right side up on the beach. Tailboom is intact.
And in the interest of safety, the inflated flotation devices that SASless advocates are amply shown at 0:41- 0:45 here:
And in the interest of safety, the inflated flotation devices that SASless advocates are amply shown at 0:41- 0:45 here:
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Float arming over water???
If this guy had floats fitted but were not armed then it speaks volumes for the 139 philosophy of having auto-floats always armed over water.
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Maybe he elected to ditch in that location deliberately? Popping the floats and alighting into that surf could have resulted in the aircraft being washed ashore into the crowds uncontrollably with the rotors spinning...!
errrm.. he doesn't have any floats, but I'd say he had quite a bit of time to choose his spot - the rotor RPM decays relatively slowly and the ROD is low. The beach was crowded so he put it down neatly behind the rollers. Even matey standing on the skid was told to get back in (albeit rather late!). Good job 
Anyone know the driver?
Anyone know the driver?
Bonkers.....you are saying it is better to have no floats as that means one can make a safer ditching into the water than popping the floats and landing on top of the water...right?
Even if the surf had turned the aircraft over it would have been safer to have floats as it makes getting out of the aircraft a lot safer as the aircraft is on or at the surface rather than headed for the bottom which in some cases is a very long ride.
Matari.....yes the left hand set of flotation gear you pointed out would bear a lot of investigation I would think....with lots of hands on testing and protracted examination.
Even if the surf had turned the aircraft over it would have been safer to have floats as it makes getting out of the aircraft a lot safer as the aircraft is on or at the surface rather than headed for the bottom which in some cases is a very long ride.
Matari.....yes the left hand set of flotation gear you pointed out would bear a lot of investigation I would think....with lots of hands on testing and protracted examination.
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Is it better to have floats?
I frequently fly over water. When I'm mid channel I sometimes wish I had floats.
However when I coast in I'm glad I didn't.
As we all know, floats cost money and slow the aircraft down.
I frequently fly over water. When I'm mid channel I sometimes wish I had floats.
However when I coast in I'm glad I didn't.
As we all know, floats cost money and slow the aircraft down.
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None of the helicopters in any of the videos are float equipped so I'm not sure what SAS and Matari are on about!
Ok scrub that - I think I can guess what that was about just that the clip doesn't do it justice being Brazil etc. you know they're mean't to be top of the line aren't they?.
Ok scrub that - I think I can guess what that was about just that the clip doesn't do it justice being Brazil etc. you know they're mean't to be top of the line aren't they?.
Sasless...
No I'm not saying that. It looks like he has floats and other posters are asking why he didn't pop them.
Yes they could have been unarmed. But I'm saying maybe he chose not to pop them and just ditch in the shallow instead. The water was warm enough afterall. What I'm saying is if the beach was as crowded as it looks, would it be a good thing for the aircraft to float in controllable on wild surf with blades spinning and sailing onto a shoreline full of curious onlookers? (the lemming affect).
Also, ditching into the wild surf would tumble them around more so than the calmer water so putting the occupants at more risk of disorientation/cabin injuries and making harder to get out of the cabin.
No I'm not saying that. It looks like he has floats and other posters are asking why he didn't pop them.
Yes they could have been unarmed. But I'm saying maybe he chose not to pop them and just ditch in the shallow instead. The water was warm enough afterall. What I'm saying is if the beach was as crowded as it looks, would it be a good thing for the aircraft to float in controllable on wild surf with blades spinning and sailing onto a shoreline full of curious onlookers? (the lemming affect).
Also, ditching into the wild surf would tumble them around more so than the calmer water so putting the occupants at more risk of disorientation/cabin injuries and making harder to get out of the cabin.
floats cost money and slow the aircraft down
Spoken like a true 'jock'The statements of the year are starting early this year.....
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mb - are you looking at the same video? This chap definitely doesn't have floats which is why, we assume, he elected to ditch where he did - close enough to get to shore quickly without getting tangled up in the rollers and deep enough to allow a quick exit (basic HUET stuff).
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As I said earlier, there are NO floats on any of the helicopters in any of the videos.
Matari and SAS (as I finally figured out) are in fact talking about women!
Hope this clears-up the new year's confusion!
Matari and SAS (as I finally figured out) are in fact talking about women!
Hope this clears-up the new year's confusion!