Helipro New Zealand seconds away from causing mid air disaster ....
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Leaving to one side the specifics of this exercise which have been discussed, can someone explain why what looks like civilian contractors are practising for a task that you would think should be being conducted by the military? Are there not issues with vetting for the pilots and the maintenance of strict secrecy before and after an event? Would the contractors have the ability to use a night vision device were such a task to (sensibly) take place after dark?
Sorry to ask such questions but from 12,000 miles away it looks a little strange to see what I'm assuming is a counter-terrorist team swarming down ropes from a bright red civilian helicopter in broad daylight to a passenger ferry where their planned technique can be recorded and broadcast to the world.
Sorry to ask such questions but from 12,000 miles away it looks a little strange to see what I'm assuming is a counter-terrorist team swarming down ropes from a bright red civilian helicopter in broad daylight to a passenger ferry where their planned technique can be recorded and broadcast to the world.
Last edited by onesquaremetre; 16th December 2012 at 07:22.
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Hihover,
Did you understand my post, or just reacted to my remark?
I understand it was an exercise. Even more important to reduce the possibility of a disaster. These things must have been planned and agreed with the boat's captain.
In other words, the risk of a disaster is far greater in the way things went, than if a diffrent way of disposing of the ropes from the helicopter had been planned.(and I am not even talking about the potensional mid-air)
I would not have wanted the exercise dictated by a boats captain if this would jeapordise the safety of everyone involved. Get my point? This was a reply to Flying Bulls post which says boat captains don't like this practise.
I know 3 pilots which have had their run-ins with bags/tarps entering the rotors, main and tail, and it have almost ended in tears, only 3 written off helicopters, but all occupants survived. (one was caught on film and is on youtube), and in all cases the objects were further away from the helicopters than the bag on the line in this video....
So pardon me, for my unprofessionalism...
Did you understand my post, or just reacted to my remark?
I understand it was an exercise. Even more important to reduce the possibility of a disaster. These things must have been planned and agreed with the boat's captain.
In other words, the risk of a disaster is far greater in the way things went, than if a diffrent way of disposing of the ropes from the helicopter had been planned.(and I am not even talking about the potensional mid-air)
I would not have wanted the exercise dictated by a boats captain if this would jeapordise the safety of everyone involved. Get my point? This was a reply to Flying Bulls post which says boat captains don't like this practise.
I know 3 pilots which have had their run-ins with bags/tarps entering the rotors, main and tail, and it have almost ended in tears, only 3 written off helicopters, but all occupants survived. (one was caught on film and is on youtube), and in all cases the objects were further away from the helicopters than the bag on the line in this video....
So pardon me, for my unprofessionalism...
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Nubian
No I don't get your point matey.
At the briefing, IF, the ship's Captain did not want the ropes to be dropped after the insertion then he puts the ball right back into the helicopter captain's court for him to decide how he will achieve the aim.
At no point in the whole training scenario do I see justification for your comment.
Tam
At the briefing, IF, the ship's Captain did not want the ropes to be dropped after the insertion then he puts the ball right back into the helicopter captain's court for him to decide how he will achieve the aim.
At no point in the whole training scenario do I see justification for your comment.
Tam
