Photo ID
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Photo ID
New EASA rules say we have to carry a licence AND phot ID. It can't
be beyond the wit of man to have a photograph of the pilot on page 1 of the expensive licence that we carry around anyway.
be beyond the wit of man to have a photograph of the pilot on page 1 of the expensive licence that we carry around anyway.
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I worked on an operation in Eastern China. When I got off the plane I would be given the photo ID of the bloke I was relieving. When i left I would hand it on to my relief.
To the Chinese security guards all foreigners looked the same.
To the Chinese security guards all foreigners looked the same.
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And doubtless you need a photo ID for your UK licence as well.....can it be the same photo ID for both? A cycnic would probably say 'No'. Yes, Reader, I am that cynic!
On that subject, what a wonderful new system we have now....2 licences (UK and JAR/EASA) instead of only one if one has to fly non-EASA tyes or those on a national Permit; and if I want a TRE from another EASA country to do my LPC he has to be briefed by the CAA at a cost of £630; last year he couldn't SIGN my licence, all I had to do was send the 1174 and a copy of his TRE auth to the CAA and pay them about £100. OK, before some smartxxx point out the ORS that delays this until November, you get my gist!
So much for commonality and simplification!
On that subject, what a wonderful new system we have now....2 licences (UK and JAR/EASA) instead of only one if one has to fly non-EASA tyes or those on a national Permit; and if I want a TRE from another EASA country to do my LPC he has to be briefed by the CAA at a cost of £630; last year he couldn't SIGN my licence, all I had to do was send the 1174 and a copy of his TRE auth to the CAA and pay them about £100. OK, before some smartxxx point out the ORS that delays this until November, you get my gist!
So much for commonality and simplification!
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Photo Id
Recently ramp checked on a job and showed the said inspector a colour photocopy of my passport that I always keep with the docs folder and all was well. It wasn't really an issue as I normally have a driving licence with picture on as well
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Agreed MBJ...
But for most Europeans (with exceptions of the UK, Ireland, maybe Denmark?) Everyone has a national ID card; and various penalties apply if you don't have it when stopped by a cop and asked for your ID. Everyone carries this ID card so the photo on the licence is not necessary. The voluntary Brit ID card was a bone of contention among the populace and resulted in this:
Identity cards | Home Office
Now I don't like the whole 'Big Brother' scenario more than anyone else, but can't see anything wrong with providing positive ID in the current politico-religious climate.
My own European licence is as big as a phone book with no photo.
(OK, an exaggeration, but it's fricken huge) Whenever I pull it out for a Ramp/Base check, the European mainland ops inspectors laugh at it and need a walk thru. The mainland pilots pull out the single sheet of tear resistant paper neatly folded into a wallet sized 3 fold booklet about as large and thick as a playing card. It has all the needed info neatly displayed...
I stand behind many traditions and rights; (The right to bear arms-The right to carry a conveniently sized FAA Certificate) Okay, that just slipped out
But the photo-less book type licence should have gone out with silk scarves...
But for most Europeans (with exceptions of the UK, Ireland, maybe Denmark?) Everyone has a national ID card; and various penalties apply if you don't have it when stopped by a cop and asked for your ID. Everyone carries this ID card so the photo on the licence is not necessary. The voluntary Brit ID card was a bone of contention among the populace and resulted in this:
Identity cards | Home Office
Now I don't like the whole 'Big Brother' scenario more than anyone else, but can't see anything wrong with providing positive ID in the current politico-religious climate.
My own European licence is as big as a phone book with no photo.
(OK, an exaggeration, but it's fricken huge) Whenever I pull it out for a Ramp/Base check, the European mainland ops inspectors laugh at it and need a walk thru. The mainland pilots pull out the single sheet of tear resistant paper neatly folded into a wallet sized 3 fold booklet about as large and thick as a playing card. It has all the needed info neatly displayed...
I stand behind many traditions and rights; (The right to bear arms-The right to carry a conveniently sized FAA Certificate) Okay, that just slipped out
But the photo-less book type licence should have gone out with silk scarves...
Last edited by 170'; 20th September 2012 at 15:00.
