Top of the World: photos from Nepal
WoW Faktor
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I'd say it's the shortest helicopter career ever...was it only one flight? It would have been an interesting meeting with the Chief Pilot to explain that one.
Note that the helicopter was rotating clockwise, so lots of TR drive was causing that, not MR torque.
Note that the helicopter was rotating clockwise, so lots of TR drive was causing that, not MR torque.
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The fuselage appears to be rotating clockwise to me, if I'm not mistaken the MR spins in a clockwise direction on the AS350, so with my limited understanding of helicopters it seems quite possible that the TR was driving that thing around in circles...roll off the throttle and the TR loses RPM and doesn't have enough oomph to keep the party spinning towards oblivion. Assuming full left pedal had no effect.
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Maybe he tried to lift off without hydraulics - having pulled some lever up to get light, he couldn't put it back down? Pedals then unresponsive? Not smart enough to chop the throttle?
Put a nice Strauss waltz as the soundtrack.
Put a nice Strauss waltz as the soundtrack.
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Waltzing Matilda Rockz
G'day AC....hmmmm my guess is; the Pilot landed, lowering some lever (not all the way down), & kept the power pedal still applied from the pre landing/arrival R pedal setting, so it started rotating to the right & he got confused & choose to do nothing, just sat there watching frozen/clueless of the impeding crash unfold! Had he just dumped the collective, he’d have been glued to the pad, or fly the picture; stop the turn & maintain position with the shtick; end of story....yer but, yer but, yer but 
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Hey gulliBell.....Yep, going down; bloody lucky just stopped on the roof than free falling 30 floors down to the ground
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Hoy albatross.............exactly; it ain't rocket science, we ALL trained for such simple problems (I hope)
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Namaste chopjock...............great question, stunned mullet comes to mind, I'm flabbergasted
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Hey gulliBell.....Yep, going down; bloody lucky just stopped on the roof than free falling 30 floors down to the ground
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Hoy albatross.............exactly; it ain't rocket science, we ALL trained for such simple problems (I hope)
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Namaste chopjock...............great question, stunned mullet comes to mind, I'm flabbergasted
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If an explanation for anything could be unbelievable, yet feasible, that would be it. Maybe give him an S76 to drive instead, then he wouldn't have to worry so much about which pedal to push. Just keep both feet off the pedals and let the collective yaw mixer and auto-pilot take care of directional business. Oh, on 2nd thought, disregard that, now that I remember the altitude you need to operate at. You'd be solving one problem and causing another.
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From: On the green bit near the blue wobbly stuff
If an explanation for anything could be unbelievable, yet feasible, that would be it. Maybe give him an S76 to drive instead, then he wouldn't have to worry so much about which pedal to push. Just keep both feet off the pedals and let the collective yaw mixer and auto-pilot take care of directional business. Oh, on 2nd thought, disregard that, now that I remember the altitude you need to operate at. You'd be solving one problem and causing another.
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the elusive Bunny faktor
Perfectly believable to me. Classic startle effect. Some people just freeze like rabbits in the headlights when they are scared. I have had students in the sim, who have crashed with me saying to them " Lower the collective, lower the collective! , LOWER THE COLLECTIVE, LOWER THE COLLECTIVE!!!" Complete failure to respond - brain temporarily shut down.
I think You've stumbled on it ole mate? 'the Bunny faktor', making BugsBunny proud even today 
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Hi Vertical Freedom,
about beeing shocked...
Fraud with Poison (German articel)
I had to read, that there has been a big fraud, involving eight travel agencies, four hospitals and three helicopter companys in Nepal.
Tourists were poisoned by the travel agents, so that they needed rescue - and the involved got paid by the insurance companys of the victims.......
Do you have more information?
Greetings Flying Bull
about beeing shocked...
Fraud with Poison (German articel)
I had to read, that there has been a big fraud, involving eight travel agencies, four hospitals and three helicopter companys in Nepal.
Tourists were poisoned by the travel agents, so that they needed rescue - and the involved got paid by the insurance companys of the victims.......
Do you have more information?
Greetings Flying Bull