Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Rotorheads
Reload this Page >

Campaign Against Aviation licence changes

Wikiposts
Search

Notices
Rotorheads A haven for helicopter professionals to discuss the things that affect them

Campaign Against Aviation licence changes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25th June 2011 | 15:10
  #41 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 2
From: yorkshire uk
Paco . Are you saying then that one LPC will validate all the other types that i fly ...even if i dont have an original type rating in them ? I assumed i would now have to do a rating on all the types not on my CAA licence .
Also is it definitely correct that if you get 100 hrs pic in your log book on that type you can just do the LPC and will then get the rating ?
HillerBee not doubting you but this is news to me and would mean just an LPC on each type initially then one type each year . Which is far better than i was led to believe.
nigelh is offline  
Reply
Old 25th June 2011 | 15:59
  #42 (permalink)  
25 Anniversary
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 4,331
Likes: 74
From: White Waltham, Prestwick & Calgary
It's a while since I did it, but if I remember right if you had, say R22 and R44, or 350 B2/3/4, you could do a rotating lpc and the types would all be covered. Best check with a TRE for current info.

phil
paco is offline  
Reply
Old 25th June 2011 | 16:42
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
From: UK
From LASORS 2010, and with regard to the revalidation of the SEP and SET groups:

Revalidation of a helicopter type rating requires a
proficiency check in the relevant type of helicopter within
the 3 months immediately preceding the expiry date of
the rating, and at least 2 hours (including the proficiency
check) as pilot of the relevant helicopter within the validity
period of the rating.

For single-engine piston helicopters as listed
below (Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 2.245 (b)(3) refers), an
applicant shall complete at least the proficiency check
in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.245(b)(1) on one of the
applicable types held provided that the applicant has
fulfilled at least 2 hours pilot-in-command flight time on
the other type(s) during the validity period which that
revalidation proficiency check shall carry across.

The proficiency check shall always be performed on the
type least recently used for a proficiency check. The type
ratings for this purpose are:-

Bell 47, Brantley B2, Hughes 269, Enstrom ENF28 and
Hiller UH12

For single-engine turbine helicopters with a MTOM
<3175 kg, the proficiency check in accordance with
JAR-FCL 2.245 (b)(1) is only required on one of the
applicable types held, provided that the applicant has:-

i. completed at least 300 hours as pilot in command of
helicopters; and

ii. completed 15 hours as pilot on each of the type(s) to
which that revalidation proficiency check shall carry
across, and

iii. completed at least 2 hours as pilot-in-command
flight time on each of the other type(s) during the
validity period to which that revalidation proficiency
check shall carry across;

The proficiency check shall always be performed on the
type least recently used for a proficiency check, unless
an individual written permission has been given by the
Authority.
Note that the SEP group does not include the R22 and R44.

And with regard to the transfer of type ratings:

A type rating endorsement on a licence issued by a
non-JAA State may be transferred to a UK issued pilot’s
licence, subject to:-

i. For a single-engine turbine and single-engine piston
helicopters with a MTOM < 3175kg, 100 hours flying
experience as pilot on type,operating as P1 or P2
appropriate to the rating required.

For all other helicopters, 350 hours flying experience as
pilot on type, operating as P1 or P2 appropriate to the
rating required.

ii. Operational experience as pilot on type within the
preceding 5 years.

iii. Pass a Proficiency Check on type with a JAA
Authorised Examiner.

iv. Have met the requirements of JAR-FCL 2.250, and
2.255 as applicable, including theoretical knowledge
requirements.

Applicants who hold a type rating but do not meet the
experience requirements above will be required to
complete a course of training at an approved TRTO. The
CAA may consider a reduction in the amount of training
required to take account of previous experience on type,
subject to a recommendation in writing by the Head of
Training. Applicants will be required to pass the written
theoretical knowledge examination and a Licensing Skill
Test (LST).
Curtis E Carr is offline  
Reply
Old 25th June 2011 | 17:16
  #44 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL(H)
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 57
From: UK
Gadzooks, C.E.C., you didn't expect nigelh to read LASORS, did you?

Last edited by Bravo73; 25th June 2011 at 17:30.
Bravo73 is offline  
Reply
Old 25th June 2011 | 18:24
  #45 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,529
Likes: 2
From: yorkshire uk
Bravo ... Good point , well made !! Think it best if I leave it until 2014 when Europe and EASA will probably be too broke to issue anything !!
nigelh is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.