How to Land a Helicopter After Your pilot Has Been Incapacitated
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From: engineer at large
As a door gunner, we had to perform a 'pilot out' landing at least once a month...
notes on the guide to save yourslf...
after the nosehook recovery (from the pilot slumping over the stick...)
(think Roy Snieder..)
then go to "Top Gun" not the missiles vs guns thing...
the part where they are in the flat spin....
I am confused...WHY did they have a greased pig on the helo?...
notes on the guide to save yourslf...
after the nosehook recovery (from the pilot slumping over the stick...)
(think Roy Snieder..)
then go to "Top Gun" not the missiles vs guns thing...
the part where they are in the flat spin....
I am confused...WHY did they have a greased pig on the helo?...
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From: UK
We have a procedure for our bobbies, using the autopilot.....
where the Bobbies were trained on how to engage the Auto Pilot and then steer the aircraft
onto a course with a gradual descent to a large lake in their area.
Tthe aim was to jump out shortly before the aircraft splashed down, hopefully saving their lives,
and saving the lives of others because the machine wouldn't crash in a built up area.
Anyone know which Unit, and whether the drill is still in place ?
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From: Alles über die platz
Bobbies were trained on how to engage the Auto Pilot and then steer the aircraft onto a course with a gradual descent to a large lake in their area.
The aim was to jump out shortly before the aircraft splashed down, hopefully saving their lives,
The aim was to jump out shortly before the aircraft splashed down, hopefully saving their lives,
Some of us couldn't even autopilot the machine to the airfield without being able to couple it to the ILS, let alone make a shallow approach to a lake at a speed above which it would disengage!
Water's like concrete at 100mph !
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From: In the air with luck
Wish I had found that set of instructions before learning to fly.
Only wanted a few lessons on how to get it on the ground if the pilot keeled over
could have saved a fortune
& a lot of grief from the beloved.
Only wanted a few lessons on how to get it on the ground if the pilot keeled over
could have saved a fortune & a lot of grief from the beloved.
Avoid imitations
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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
How to land a helicopter.
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From: the great white north
yeah...and how much time do they think there is before control is completely lost? (along with other huge allowances in their scenario)
after all of the hundreds of pax briefings i have ever given (for VFR singles) only once have i been asked; "what happens to us if something happens to you?"
after all of the hundreds of pax briefings i have ever given (for VFR singles) only once have i been asked; "what happens to us if something happens to you?"
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From: On the Rump of Pendle Hill Lancashi
I have taken time to read it all, Thank goodness for wiki, I had no idea thats how easy it is, I'll try that next time, and I am sure the guys at "Say... LAX" would be so happy for me to do that or even a small crash in order to stop.
I never thought Heli flying could be so easy, thank you for posting.
Peter R-B
Lancashire
I never thought Heli flying could be so easy, thank you for posting.
Peter R-B
Lancashire
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From: UK
I have been incapacitated in flight once, with no duals in. The pax leaned over and took control (keeping us level) until I recovered sufficiently to regain control (about 20 minutes). I could not see anything, nearly blanked out and could not think straight. Turned out to be a once only panic attack.
Now I often leave the duals in and let the pax have a feel as we go.
Now I often leave the duals in and let the pax have a feel as we go.
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From: UK
ChopJock: This has to be a wind up right? Are you as weird in the physical state as you are in the mental state(with all your previous posts)???
You were incapacitated for 20 minutes
And the docs have given your ticket back to you???? WTF
You were incapacitated for 20 minutes
And the docs have given your ticket back to you???? WTF
"Just a pilot"
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From: Jefferson GA USA
"Familiarize yourself with the controls"
In the last few seconds of your life...
I did hear a reliable report of this happening some decades back, although the pilot had only lost consciousness. The individual holding the pilot clear of the controls and the passenger in the front passenger seat, flying the aircraft, were killed in the crash. The pilot and 2 other passengers survived.
I did hear a reliable report of this happening some decades back, although the pilot had only lost consciousness. The individual holding the pilot clear of the controls and the passenger in the front passenger seat, flying the aircraft, were killed in the crash. The pilot and 2 other passengers survived.
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MightyGem;
I did a similar thing with a couple of our owners, they got close enough and slow enough to the ground that although they were going to crash it (maybe) wasn't as bad as a plummet from MSA.
As for the rest, when they ask "what happens to us if something happens to you?" I always tell them I'll hold a place in the queue for them at the pearly gates
SND
I did a similar thing with a couple of our owners, they got close enough and slow enough to the ground that although they were going to crash it (maybe) wasn't as bad as a plummet from MSA.
As for the rest, when they ask "what happens to us if something happens to you?" I always tell them I'll hold a place in the queue for them at the pearly gates
SND
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From: Tax-land.
Land the helicopter after the pilot dies, the wet dream of all paramedics and flight nurses.
Most of them actually say that to the pilot, as that would instill them with trust for the med crew.
Too bad most cheap EMS operators are going the tiny single engine way with the SLBs actually stowed in the back seats.
Perhaps this is the argument that would push the customer to pay for larger, more capable aircraft with actual IFR capability.
Most of them actually say that to the pilot, as that would instill them with trust for the med crew.
Too bad most cheap EMS operators are going the tiny single engine way with the SLBs actually stowed in the back seats.
Perhaps this is the argument that would push the customer to pay for larger, more capable aircraft with actual IFR capability.
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From: Lost, but often Indonesia
Take off
Ok, I've read the instructions 3 or 4 times and understand the gist of it and reckon I'm ready to give it a go. What bothers me is there are no instructions on how to take off. I mean, if the pilot cops one on start up and the bad guys are racing in to chop my head off what do I need to do to get into a hover and the hell out of there? (assuming no door gunner on this helicopter). Also, am I allowed to use the tail rotor to take out the bad guys. I mean do a sort of pirouette to chop them up before heading off? Any advice much appreciated,
cheers
Octane
cheers
Octane