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Old 13th Jun 2011, 20:25
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As a door gunner, we had to perform a 'pilot out' landing at least once a month...

notes on the guide to save yourslf...

after the nosehook recovery (from the pilot slumping over the stick...)
(think Roy Snieder..)

then go to "Top Gun" not the missiles vs guns thing...

the part where they are in the flat spin....

I am confused...WHY did they have a greased pig on the helo?...
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Old 14th Jun 2011, 19:15
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We have a procedure for our bobbies, using the autopilot.....
I once heard talk of a Police Air support Unit that had a drill to cover just such an occurrence,
where the Bobbies were trained on how to engage the Auto Pilot and then steer the aircraft
onto a course with a gradual descent to a large lake in their area.

Tthe aim was to jump out shortly before the aircraft splashed down, hopefully saving their lives,
and saving the lives of others because the machine wouldn't crash in a built up area.

Anyone know which Unit, and whether the drill is still in place ?

~ Discuss ~

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Old 14th Jun 2011, 20:25
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Yes, I seem to recall that. Can't remember who though.
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Old 15th Jun 2011, 21:45
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Bobbies were trained on how to engage the Auto Pilot and then steer the aircraft onto a course with a gradual descent to a large lake in their area.
The aim was to jump out shortly before the aircraft splashed down, hopefully saving their lives,
Clucking bell !

Some of us couldn't even autopilot the machine to the airfield without being able to couple it to the ILS, let alone make a shallow approach to a lake at a speed above which it would disengage!

Water's like concrete at 100mph !
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Old 15th Jun 2011, 21:53
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Wish I had found that set of instructions before learning to fly.
Only wanted a few lessons on how to get it on the ground if the pilot keeled over could have saved a fortune & a lot of grief from the beloved.
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 09:19
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How to land a helicopter.

I always wondered how it was done......

How to Land a Helicopter After Your Pilot Has Been Killed

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Old 4th Nov 2013, 11:26
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yeah...and how much time do they think there is before control is completely lost? (along with other huge allowances in their scenario)

after all of the hundreds of pax briefings i have ever given (for VFR singles) only once have i been asked; "what happens to us if something happens to you?"
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 11:29
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I have taken time to read it all, Thank goodness for wiki, I had no idea thats how easy it is, I'll try that next time, and I am sure the guys at "Say... LAX" would be so happy for me to do that or even a small crash in order to stop.

I never thought Heli flying could be so easy, thank you for posting.

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Old 4th Nov 2013, 13:12
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What a load of claptrap! The auther clearly has too much time on his hands when he could be writing on Pprune or something!

Helo pilot has an MI. Everybody dies - simples.
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 13:46
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I have been incapacitated in flight once, with no duals in. The pax leaned over and took control (keeping us level) until I recovered sufficiently to regain control (about 20 minutes). I could not see anything, nearly blanked out and could not think straight. Turned out to be a once only panic attack.
Now I often leave the duals in and let the pax have a feel as we go.
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 13:50
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If I'd known it was that easy I'd have learned to fly one years ago
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 14:16
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ChopJock: This has to be a wind up right? Are you as weird in the physical state as you are in the mental state(with all your previous posts)???
You were incapacitated for 20 minutes

And the docs have given your ticket back to you???? WTF
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 14:46
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Come on TC, it's a wind up. Isn't it??
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Old 4th Nov 2013, 18:27
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"Familiarize yourself with the controls"

In the last few seconds of your life...

I did hear a reliable report of this happening some decades back, although the pilot had only lost consciousness. The individual holding the pilot clear of the controls and the passenger in the front passenger seat, flying the aircraft, were killed in the crash. The pilot and 2 other passengers survived.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 08:02
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MightyGem;

I did a similar thing with a couple of our owners, they got close enough and slow enough to the ground that although they were going to crash it (maybe) wasn't as bad as a plummet from MSA.

As for the rest, when they ask "what happens to us if something happens to you?" I always tell them I'll hold a place in the queue for them at the pearly gates

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Old 5th Nov 2013, 11:39
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My reply was not nearly so polished or polite.....it was usually....."You are going to be one dead Mother F.....Ker!".
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 12:38
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Land the helicopter after the pilot dies, the wet dream of all paramedics and flight nurses.
Most of them actually say that to the pilot, as that would instill them with trust for the med crew.
Too bad most cheap EMS operators are going the tiny single engine way with the SLBs actually stowed in the back seats.


Perhaps this is the argument that would push the customer to pay for larger, more capable aircraft with actual IFR capability.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 12:54
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Take off

Ok, I've read the instructions 3 or 4 times and understand the gist of it and reckon I'm ready to give it a go. What bothers me is there are no instructions on how to take off. I mean, if the pilot cops one on start up and the bad guys are racing in to chop my head off what do I need to do to get into a hover and the hell out of there? (assuming no door gunner on this helicopter). Also, am I allowed to use the tail rotor to take out the bad guys. I mean do a sort of pirouette to chop them up before heading off? Any advice much appreciated,
cheers
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 15:23
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All the info you need is shown in various James Bond films. That's lesson 2, of course.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 16:43
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Just don't forget to :

"Take a moment to ensure everyone has their seat belt securely fastened, and that any carry-on items are stowed securely."
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