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69GCBC 9th Jun 2011 23:00

How to Land a Helicopter After Your pilot Has Been Incapacitated
 
Saw this on the web and figured you guys would get a kick out of it:

How to Land a Helicopter After Your Pilot Has Been Incapacitated

(don't they have an app for this yet?)

Ag-Rotor 10th Jun 2011 05:31

I think it fair to say, "if the pilot dies at the control...the passangers will die shortly after" My advise would be to stick your head beteen your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.:ok:

rotorfan 10th Jun 2011 06:28

Sheesh, all those hours and dollars I spent on learning to pick up, fly a circuit, and set it down in one piece.... All I needed was to read that 3-minute article.

It's actually not badly written, but it leaves one with the impression that they could pull this off after merely reading. Some poor sod will likely believe that they could really do this.

Ag-Rotor has the proper advice.:ok:

Coconutty 10th Jun 2011 07:00

What a great littlle self help article :hmm:

There are some gems there, but in Section 1 they missed out,
"If the pilots seat belt isn't too tight - and you think they are dead - try opening the door and pushing the bugger out -
the weight saved by doing so will give you extra time to figure out what to do next..."

Most of the procedure for gaining control of the helicopter is obviously quite simple,
and is something that your average tourist can easily manage,
because not until Section 5 is it ,

time to get serious. :uhoh:
Para 3 in Section 5 reminds you to check

that any carry-on items are stowed securely
but then Para 6. of the same section discusses

... wrestling a greased pig all the way down
Would that be a fare paying passenger or a carry on item ?


Helicopters are pretty tough, and it's not yours anyway, so don't worry about roughing it up :eek:
After landing : ( :rolleyes: )

Don't move the wounded/dead pilot until paramedics arrive.
( ... assuming you didn't already push them out ...... it's probably OK to punch him or her though - maybe once or even twice if no-one is looking ).

and finally :

If your helicopter is on fire after landing you may
MAY ???

want to exit the helicopter before everything stops moving, and pull the disabled pilot out.
.... who will definitiely be unconcious if you got the punches right. :ok:
Take a moment to reflect on why you went on a pleasure flight with a disabled pilot in the first place :oh:


Just be very careful around the rotor blades. Without you holding the controls steady it can very easily flap around low enough to cut your torso in half.
This will definitely spoil your day and ruin any chance of getting a refund :p

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Coconutty.jpg

longbox 10th Jun 2011 07:36

I had a large sea gull come through the pax window on a 206, luckily the passenger side window, which it removed completely, the facts theymissed 140mph winds coming through the front, blood etc etc, I agree with AG, I can post pics if anybody wants to see:ok:

IntheTin 10th Jun 2011 07:46

Coconutty said it right 'some gems'

I was cringing as I forced myself to read this. Not sure how many tour operators have the duals in anyway!

As for me I'm all for trying to save my arse but if the author thinks that anyone would remember even a pinch of what's he's written then......well :=

Actually looking at the article it can be edited. I may just have to go on there and have some fun :}

Avtrician 10th Jun 2011 08:20

Technically correct in a simplistic way, but with the chopper in a screaming death dive I doubt you would have time even to bend over to kiss your arse:}:} let alone get the feel of the controls use the radio (after finding out where the head set was) and work thew GPS if there is one....

Flyt3est 10th Jun 2011 09:04

Lets face it, if flying was difficult, engineers would do it..

:p

Art of flight 10th Jun 2011 10:46

"Lets face it, if flying was difficult, engineers would do it.."

They do........but can make more money bending spanners on Fords!

John R81 10th Jun 2011 11:25

I think it's awesome (though I did sneak in a few edits shortly after 69GCBC made the original post). I have printed, and will take with me to my flying school to ask them why it took them 50 hrs to teach this to me!


Do I get a refund????

diginagain 10th Jun 2011 12:01


"If the pilots seat belt isn't too tight - and you think they are dead - try opening the door and pushing the bugger out -
the weight saved by doing so will give you extra time to figure out what to do next..."
Many years ago, when I was merely an Aircrewman, I did a Standards check-ride to assess my suitability for further training. Part of it involved demonstrating that, in the event of pilot incapacitation, there was a fair chance of me getting us down without totalling a Gazelle.

"Right, Bloggs, I'm dying, what are you going to do?" says he.

"About 1.5 solo, with the fuel we've got." earned me a dirty look.

jim63 10th Jun 2011 13:53

They should take the time to do a primer on how to fly the space shuttle if you're drunk and wander into the cockpit on a Saturday night next.


topendtorque 11th Jun 2011 10:42

you'd soon find out if he really was dead when yer tried to push the critter out the door.

Digital flight deck 11th Jun 2011 14:46

Amazing to think anyone would be so stupid as to think they could get away with this. I must say that I have not laughed so much in a long time.

malabo 11th Jun 2011 15:06

I'd get asked this once in a while by the front seat passenger in both airplanes and helicopters. In an airplane I'd show them- similar to the advice in this thread. In the helicopter I'd say "forget it, you're dead". If I felt particularly dark I'd add that for all practical purposes they were already dead until I landed again.

heliwanab 11th Jun 2011 16:59

my sides actually hurt with laughing. i've been trying to get any kind of licence to drive for years and have (about) 8 hrs tt.
still cr#p myself in straight an level never mind landing greasy pigs.....quality!!
:ok::ok:

HowlingMad Murdock 11th Jun 2011 19:17

Heh,heh,heh, fantastic! Have been 'wastin' time' reading various books recommended for PPL(H) when all I had to do was read the aforementioned article - I should be able to fly a heli within a few hours, thus savin' a fortune on instruction!;)

Devil 49 12th Jun 2011 03:28

Scoff, but this has been done, more or less successfully, at least once that I know of. The story:
Pilot departs Gulf of Mexico shore base flying a 206 to change production crews. As he heads out over the marsh, he starts feeling ill and turns around. Feeling sicker, he initiates a forced landing, but loses consciousness. The front seat passenger grabs the controls he can reach while somebody in back holds the pilot up. The 2 active passengers die in the crash, everybody else survives.

grumpytroll 12th Jun 2011 20:01

an easier way
 
I don't understand why they go into detail about landing. It would be so much simpler to get control of the thing, get on the radio and tell ATC what is going on. Then they can arrange for a helicopter pilot to show up at the airport. (if there isn't one already about)(If you can't find a helo pilot any old fixed wing driver will do) Then all you have to do is hover low enough and slow enough so that he can step up on the skid, pull his dead buddy out, plop in the seat and wullah. Problem solved. This plan cuts the training from say 8 minutes down to no more than 2.

Quote: (don't they have an app for this yet?)

Haven't you seen "The Matrix"?

MightyGem 13th Jun 2011 17:14

We have a procedure for our bobbies, using the autopilot/ILS, which, with a bit of luck, will get them to 75 feet above the runway doing 80kts. After that they're on their own. :E


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