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Old 4th May 2011 | 10:08
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The plot thickens!
I'm sure the research from the RAH-66 Project didn't go to waste!
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Old 4th May 2011 | 10:34
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Maybe not, but that pile of crap doesn't look like it was once a real aircraft.
Too neat...
This is what it looks like when something stealthy crashes:


F117 in Serbia, 1999

So, why not use the opportunity and get the competition thinking ...

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Old 4th May 2011 | 11:08
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a modify balck-sea hawk
What....now the Roosians are involved?
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Old 4th May 2011 | 11:13
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851Pilot has nailed it. (But where are the other bits )

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post6428762
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Old 4th May 2011 | 11:27
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311kph,

I read that the wreck was destroyed, most likely thermite grenades or similar. I doubt the F-117 driver in Serbia was in a position to have much to do with his wreckage after he ejected!
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Old 4th May 2011 | 11:33
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Something seems fishy !

Hello fellow rotor heads. I don't doubt that its possible that some sort of quieting TR has been developed for the H-60 but something seems fishy about these two sets of pics. The one with the mystery 5-bladed hub is taken of an assembly of some sort that is sort of depicted to show it strewn over a wall. This wall is completely different than the wall in the other photos. In addition, the assembly itself seems to be not genuine aviation construction - it almost looks like a welded seam going up what would/could/should be the vertical tail structure. Anyway - the photos that are all over the press show the brick constructed wall and that is clearly an S-70/H-60 tail. It does indeed look like it could be an MH-60K because it has the Naval Hawk's foldable rectangular stabilators in lieu of the more rounded standard Black Hawk stabilator. Just as with the Marine/HMX-1 Presidential VH-60N hybrids, the "Special K's" were made to be shipboard compatible. ANyway - back to the main issue: that odd mystery structure just somehow doesn't seem genuine to me based on the wall - not on the viability of the tail design...Any other POV's welcome though - this is just my first reaction.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 12:15
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Whatever it is, I'll bet Lyn Tilton is pissed she missed out on the contract to build it.......
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Old 4th May 2011 | 12:30
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The last picture of that "Fenestron" looking thing shows that it is absolutely huge, take a look at the guy to the left and compare...
Also, something strange about the hub, it looks a bit fake.

The line looking like a weld on what we'll call the tail boom seems more like damage to composite structure after a crash than a weld to me.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 13:56
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It seems the press agrees that this tail section is 'odd'

Top Secret Stealth Helicopters used in Bin Laden Raid


I am a fledgling pilot with minimal experience and the first time I saw this tail it didn't sit right with me.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 15:23
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Maybe it's a Glider a la World War 2?
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Old 4th May 2011 | 18:03
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try this one for size!

Link to dummy image created to troll!

Last edited by Senior Pilot; 4th May 2011 at 20:50. Reason: Edit image: too big and a fake, anyway!
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Old 4th May 2011 | 18:03
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Since this is a rumour network, I'd heard a rumour from a very well placed source that the US Army special ops folks had some stealth Blackhawks since - are you ready for this? - the mid '80s....
Nice to see they were able to keep 'em quiet for that long.
I can only wonder what wonderous sights those boys have seen.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 19:46
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It's hard to believe that these super-duper-specops guys forget to clean up their mess properly.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 19:57
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Trac, since when did Eurocopter make Blackhawks?

Maybe the pilot kicked in left instead of right pedal :-)

(assuming the rotors as shown in that drawing turn "the wrong way")
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Old 4th May 2011 | 20:18
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Old 4th May 2011 | 20:39
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another interesting link
Active Sensors | NASA SELECTS ACTIVE SENSORS RVDT?S FOR LATEST BLACKHAWK STEALTH PROJECT

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Old 4th May 2011 | 21:27
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So, now that we established they are likely stealthy blackhawks... The next question is, was this a 'mechanical failure' or did that thing get blown on to the wire topped fence when they destroyed the thing? Kinda hints at a tail strike...
Anyone? Mr. Coyle?
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Old 4th May 2011 | 21:51
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You can clearly see a standard S70/UH60 series pitch horn in this picture, just slightly left of center.

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Old 4th May 2011 | 22:23
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Images are legit and come from numerous news agencies. So I guess it must be true.
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Old 4th May 2011 | 22:25
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Just wanted to add, and yes it's totally off topic, but his million dollar mansion looks like a hovel. The construction is shoddy and there is a real lack of landscaping or any kind of flair to that place. Too much living in caves I guess... And for all of the trouble of big walls and privacy fencing, there sure seems a lack of security or true fortification to this place. After all, we did land at least one blackhawk in it. It will be interesting to see what else is revealed about this hovel of a compound. Makes me really wonder how much he relied on Paki intel for his early warning system. Just glad he's dead, God Bless America and the troops
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