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Old 8th Nov 2012, 18:26
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Savoia says:
We touched on this topic on the Nostalgia thread but .. I'm not entirely sure as to whether we resolved which craft was actually used in 'The Spy Who Loved Me'.

It was previously suggested that the craft re-painted in the above colours was G-BAKS. BAKS, we know, played a prominent role in the 1981 'For Your Eyes Only' movie - the flying sequence performed by Marc Wolfe. But, is it safe to assume that BAKS also starred in 'The Spy Who Loved Me'?

As with all the Bond films 'The Spy Who Loved Me' was filmed all over the place but I'm fairly confident that the flying sequences were performed in Sardinia in 1976 by John Crewdson. Can anyone reveal the identity of the aircraft which Crewdson flew? My godfather told me that John wore a wig during the flying sequences - and looked 'very pretty'! I am hoping that with the mock-up being tucked away in Mann's hangar that the lads from Mann may remember the actual aircraft involved.

In the unofficial Bond film 'Never Say Never Again' (1983) I have a feeling that a Mann aircraft was used (ever so briefly) for the landing shot by Miximillian Largo on board the 'Flying Saucer' yacht. The other helicopter featured in that film was a Bo105 which somewhat unceremoniously dropped Bond (or one of his colleagues) into a well!

Anyone in the know - please do enlighten us!
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Well, this ios the US Navy BO-105 from Never Say Never Again:



I'm looking for info of Stromberg and Drax JetRangers. I'm italian too and I'm sure that the chase sequenze from The Spy Who Loved Me was filmed in live-action, whitout models or r/C mock-up or other special effects, in Sardinia's coast, the road from Olbia to Porto Cervo
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Is it possible that, in the movie "007 Never Say Never Again" (1983), there is a Alan Mann JetRanger?



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Old 9th Nov 2012, 14:51
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Ciao Themib; Benvenuto su Rotorheads!

Grazie per la fotografia.

(Scriverò in inglese affinché altri lettori possano comprendere.)

For some time on the Nostalgia Thread we were a little perplexed as to which aircraft had been used during the filming of 'The Spy Who Loved Me' but then along came PPRuNer Tjef who had worked with Helicopter Hire in Southend (England) and who explained that the JetRanger G-BAML had been used. There is a write-up about this in post #1192 on page 60 of the Nostalgia Thread.

I agree with you that the helicopter chase scene for 'The Spy Who Loved Me' was probably filmed along the road (northbound) out of Olbia. There were no models used and the flying was performed (as you have read) by a British helicopter pilot called John Crewdson.

However .. the film did use both models and mock-ups; I think the parts where models were used is fairly obvious and the mock-up might have been used for close-ups while 'Naomi' (Caroline Munro) was 'flying' the helicopter:


Caroline Munro performing as Naomi while flying Karl Stromberg's JetRanger in pursuit of Bond (1977)


Caroline Munro attending a reunion at Pinewood Studios on 19th October 2008 with the Stromberg JetRanger mock-up

I would like to help you with more images of the Stromberg 206's (and Drax for that matter) but, despite the fact they appeared on film there seem to be precious few photographs out there in the public domain.

We have a member of PPRuNe, Chopper2004, who is knowledgeable about films and the helicopters used in therein, perhaps he may be able to assist further.

As mentioned previously, I am sure it is an Alan Mann 206 which features in 'Never Say Never Again' (1983) as posted in your last set of pictures but we would need an ex-Alan Manner to confirm this.

If you would like to see another JetRanger car-chasing-scene from the 1970's may I recommend the clip (below) from 'Dirty Mary Crazy Larry' (1974) which has another piece of skilful (if slightly risky) flying. Annoyingly (as many American studios are prone to doing) the JetRanger soundtrack is replaced with that of a Hughes 500!



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Old 9th Nov 2012, 15:19
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Caroline Munro is an annual visitor to the Stars of Time event at The Helicopter Museum where lucky raffle winners get the chance to fly with her in a JetRanger .She also signs photos of herself with the JetRanger for a small payment.
The next event is in July 2013 so join the queue.
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US Navy BO 105 in Never Say Never Again was G-BFYA hired from Helicopter Hire Ltd. When Veritair bought YA and had it repainted their red/white/green scheme, under the orange HH paint was found the US Navy paint scheme used in the Bond film.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 17:06
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Cit: (Savoia): "However .. the film did use both models and mock-ups; I think the parts where models were used is fairly obvious and the mock-up might have been used for close-ups while 'Naomi' (Caroline Munro) was 'flying' the helicopter:"

Right.
Infact the mock-up was filmed for inside sequence, whit Caroiline Munro.
The RC model was filmed when missile hit the copter. I'm sorry
The father of my far sardinian friend still remember the summer of '76, whit the troupe in the road, whit various vehicles (and several Lotus too) and only one helicopter.
In the end credit there's this notice :"Thank to: Helicopter Hire".

I'm curious to know John Crewdson...
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I'm curious to know John Crewdson...
Very sadly you are too late by 30 years. Friend of mine had the pleaure of a transatlantic BA flight alongside Crewdson in 1978 and was utterly charmed by the disarming friendliness and self-mocking stories he was entertained with. I recommend "Everything But The Flak" by Martin Caidin.
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John Crewdson - IMDb



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Old 14th Nov 2012, 20:49
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Themib: If you look near the bottom of page 26 on the Nostalgia Thread you will see some photos of the corroded bolt which failed on the rotorhead of the ill-fated Alouette II in which John Crewdson made his last flight. On the following page is a photo of G-AWAP (#538) as well of one of John (#532) out at 'Sealand' (a World War II fort in the North Sea used for defence against German mine-laying aircraft which were targeting estuaries that were part of vital shipping lanes).

In your PM you mentioned Hugo Drax's JetRanger 'Drax Airlines' and I have been searching but .. all I have got is that which I am sure you already have .. stills from the movie:


Corinne Cléry plays the part of Corinne Dufour, Hugo Drax's helicopter pilot. (In many 007 movies is was 'obligatory' for the villain's pilot to be a woman!)


Roger Moore boards the 'Drax Ranger' with a white-gloved Corinne Cléry at the controls


The Ranger sets down outside Drax's California mansion .. a replica (we are told) imported stone-by-stone from France! (In reality Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte located about 50kms south of Paris) In the movie the landing was not especailly smooth!


Moore and Cléry retreat towards the château post flight

Looking at the instrument panel housing and air intake this appears to be an 'A' model but .. from where she came and who flew her in the movie sequence I know not!
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Sir Lawrie Barratt, founder of Barratt Homes, poses with 'Mann-managed' Bell 206 G-BEKH which was something of a small screen star in the UK in late 70's - what with flying through 'brick' walls n' all!
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a couple of snippets from the 80's

Willowbrook's G-HWBK and ZE413 looking like a Mann machine







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WRT Caroline Munro; she never had many lines to say in her films, but what she did say always sounded dubbed; why was this?
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 15:07
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Chevvron: I seriously wouldn't know. Maybe you can ask Heli1 to enquire from her in person next time she visits the Helicopter Museum!


Agusta 109A G-ROPE as seen at Middle Wallop in July 1984 (Photo: Sid Nanson)

Imported to the UK in 1980 as G-OAMH by Alan Mann for Willowbrook coach builders; then .. > Harry Goodman Air Taxis (1982) > Brencham Ltd. (1984) when she became G-ROPE. Brencham's then re-registered her (again) as G-BRYL under the name of Brencham Air Charter > Castle Air Charters (1985) who re-registered her as G-MEAN and then again as G-USTA in 1996 > Rotor-Motion (1997) > Markoss Aviation (1998).
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Smile THE OLD MANNS CLUB logo

I love 'the old Manns Club' logo. Anyone interested in getting some made (plastic stickers) or are they already available?? I will take it on if you guys think there might be enough interest. Look forward to replies.
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OMC Stickers

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Old 25th Mar 2013, 09:45
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Bravo ExD!

The logo showcased on the thread is a little small and has a 'pink' background (to match that of PPRuNe's wallpaper colour). So here's one slightly larger and without the 'PPRuNe-Pink' background!




G-BBEU as featured in a series of the Avengers c. 1976-77
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Old Manns Club stickers

thanks for the interest in this. I've been at Fairoaks tonight for the regular Quiz Night held in the flight centre bar and mentioned this to a few ex Mann guys there. Looks like plenty of interest so I will look into it. Will post update when I get more info. Savio; Thanks for sending the artwork through.
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update; i have had 100 made and can make them available at a small cost. If anyone wants to purchase one/some please contact me by private message.

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Old 2nd Apr 2013, 08:46
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Agusta 109A G-HELY as seen at Mill Ride, Ascot (presumably close to the Mill Ride Golf Course) in 1991 (Photo: David Marcus)

Originally supplied by Mann's to Barratt Developments in 1979 this craft went on to become one of Castle Air's first 109's (if not their first) whereafter she became the property of 'Candyfleet Ltd' and who owned her at the time of this photo.

More HELY on pages 2, 6 and 14.
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AM get-together

Dear all, confirming an already well published event; there will be an AMG get-together at Fairoaks on Saturday 20th July at the Flight Centre from 5pm ish. This is for ex staff and their friends, relatives and other halves. Also note it is for ALL ex AM people not just AMH so includes Mann Aviation, Mann Avionics, AMO, Falcon Jet, etc. Please spread the word. Any questions please contact me through private message.

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