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What sort of a head did those jet turnouts have? I'm guessing it may look like a water pipe Tee Piece with spindle bearings that needed grease or lube to remain of suitable viscosity given the heat of bypassing compressed air??
Perhaps lead lag problems were not the same as later driven blades as these were driving or leading all the time.
Savoia,
Is there any chance of a higher resolution of the one where Stanley and Carolyn Hiller are hovering one of his prototypes. That would have to be one of the most unique and beautiful photographs I have ever seen.
Her expression is not one of fear, rather, they each show a dynamic understanding of each other and the machine of course.His hand can be seen on the cyclic control behind her.
I would like to be able print it off and frame it.
cheers tet
Perhaps lead lag problems were not the same as later driven blades as these were driving or leading all the time.
Savoia,
Is there any chance of a higher resolution of the one where Stanley and Carolyn Hiller are hovering one of his prototypes. That would have to be one of the most unique and beautiful photographs I have ever seen.
Her expression is not one of fear, rather, they each show a dynamic understanding of each other and the machine of course.His hand can be seen on the cyclic control behind her.
I would like to be able print it off and frame it.
cheers tet
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The main reason for the Djinn's lack of commercial success were that the Bell 47 was cheaper and could carry 2 passengers and the SE 3130 Alouette 2 which was faster, had better range and payload and used less fuel.
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Well it is curious. The video presentation claims lower noise levels than conventional types but I am prepared to accept that this is merely promotional blurb. But I am surprised that the craft's operating costs were higher given the obvious reduction of dynamic components. Interesting either way.
Quite how you can read this into the photograph I don't know - but it is impressive and sounds appealing!
What I can say is that sometimes, just sometimes, a man and woman unite (as kindred spirits drawn together) and find that, against all odds (ie. life), their souls have become one, that their lives beat in natural unison and that though they be two people there are in fact one in heart and soul and spirit. This harmony is not something which can be manufactured or fabricated, cultivated or developed, it is a gift .. pure and simple .. and one either has it or one doesn't!
If Stanley and Carolyn possessed such a gift then I imagine that those around them will have notice it and, I surmise, that it may not exceed the realms of possibility to be able to perceive this through a single moment of time such as that captured by this image.
The photograph is from Stanley Hiller's private collection (examples of which are available open source). The image posted was already cleaned-up a little (the original being slightly out of focus). I have saved the image in a larger file here although not that much larger as I fear the resolution may break-up. It should be enough for a small print. The two other options are to speak with someone who has the kind of software than can significantly enhance photo size (and which usually requires a fair amount of manual manipulation too) or to contact the Hiller family directly to see whether they can assist.
I do agree that it is a pleasing photo and I think if it communicates something 'special' to you that you should absolutely frame it and display it!
Her expression is not one of fear, rather, they each show a dynamic understanding of each other and the machine of course. His hand can be seen on the cyclic control behind her.
What I can say is that sometimes, just sometimes, a man and woman unite (as kindred spirits drawn together) and find that, against all odds (ie. life), their souls have become one, that their lives beat in natural unison and that though they be two people there are in fact one in heart and soul and spirit. This harmony is not something which can be manufactured or fabricated, cultivated or developed, it is a gift .. pure and simple .. and one either has it or one doesn't!
If Stanley and Carolyn possessed such a gift then I imagine that those around them will have notice it and, I surmise, that it may not exceed the realms of possibility to be able to perceive this through a single moment of time such as that captured by this image.
The photograph is from Stanley Hiller's private collection (examples of which are available open source). The image posted was already cleaned-up a little (the original being slightly out of focus). I have saved the image in a larger file here although not that much larger as I fear the resolution may break-up. It should be enough for a small print. The two other options are to speak with someone who has the kind of software than can significantly enhance photo size (and which usually requires a fair amount of manual manipulation too) or to contact the Hiller family directly to see whether they can assist.
I do agree that it is a pleasing photo and I think if it communicates something 'special' to you that you should absolutely frame it and display it!
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Thanks Savoia,
A most interesting controls (pedals, collective /throttle) set up including swash plate assy.
Note Carolyn is holding it straight, if she is controlling the direction with feet and it's not part of the throttle linkage stuff, with only close in eye reference.
cheers tet
A most interesting controls (pedals, collective /throttle) set up including swash plate assy.
Note Carolyn is holding it straight, if she is controlling the direction with feet and it's not part of the throttle linkage stuff, with only close in eye reference.
cheers tet
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TET: The 'drop down' cyclic control was not as uncommon as one might imagine and I believe some of the early production Hiller's employed this arrangement.
I am skeptical as to whether there would have been any correlation between the power lever (where Stanley's other hand was) and the tail rotor. Those prototypes (from what I understand) were pretty rudimentary assemblages and manual torque control (I am sure) would have been the order of the day.
I am sure that Stanley explained to the missus that she would be required to put in a bit of pedal!
If you appreciate helicopter designers and their obliging spouses .. then this may also be of interest:
Charles Kaman test flies the K190 prototype and achieves a hovering touchdown onto three plywood squares held in fixed position by Mrs Robbie Kaman (left) Ann Griffin (right), and another girl (behind Mrs Kaman) in 1948
Charles and Robbie Kaman in their latter years accompanied by their beloved German Shepherds (yes, they were dog lovers)
Photos courtesy of Kaman Aerospace archives.
I am skeptical as to whether there would have been any correlation between the power lever (where Stanley's other hand was) and the tail rotor. Those prototypes (from what I understand) were pretty rudimentary assemblages and manual torque control (I am sure) would have been the order of the day.
I am sure that Stanley explained to the missus that she would be required to put in a bit of pedal!
If you appreciate helicopter designers and their obliging spouses .. then this may also be of interest:
Charles Kaman test flies the K190 prototype and achieves a hovering touchdown onto three plywood squares held in fixed position by Mrs Robbie Kaman (left) Ann Griffin (right), and another girl (behind Mrs Kaman) in 1948
Charles and Robbie Kaman in their latter years accompanied by their beloved German Shepherds (yes, they were dog lovers)
Photos courtesy of Kaman Aerospace archives.
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TET: Some examples of the 'drop down' cyclic on the Hiller 360 production model.
Fison-Airwork Hiller UH-12A (360) G-ANOC c. 1954
Swiss Hiller 360 HB-XAI clearly showing the 'direct link' cyclic-to-swashplate arrangement
Two crew from Stanley Hiller's factory demonstrate the craft's stability by temporarily vacating the cockpit and taking-up residence on the engine tray
The control layout in the 360 with drop-down dual-handled cyclic
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G-BEEK
Spooner Aviation Enstrom 280C Shark G-BEEK as seen at the Biggin Hill Air Fair in 1979
Imported by Spooner Aviation in 1976 and bought the same year by the 'Forfar Potato Company' of Angus in Scotland. Then .. Spooner > Uniweld > Keith Sutcliffee > GPS Print > Skyline Helicopters .. where Denissimo renamed her G-WSKY.
G-BEEK at Biggin Hill in 1979
Denissimo! I took the above photo with one of those 'Instamatic' cameras which were polular in the 70's. But .. if you were able to check the dates in your log book I would be most grateful as I am not 100% sure if this was in fact '79. Maybe you could see if you flew 'The Beek' at the show that year.
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Hi Savoia,
Well now you are dabbling with another old war horse from my Spooner Aviation days being serial number 1037, CAA reg G-BEEK.
The first thing to say about the 1979 Biggin Hill picture is that apart from showing the BEEK machine, more interestingly is the background which shows the first ever Enstrom 280L 4 seat Hawk, but sadly the tail cone only. You'll note I 'gave' her the registration HAWK for the period of the Biggin Hill show only. The actual G-HAWK went elsewhere of course! The other interesting titbit is the two gentlemen alongside the Hawk, being my old boss, Roy Spooner and my Chief Flying Instructor, Wing Commander Chris Bartlett.
So to the dates. I did the first assembly flight on G-BEEK on October 25th 1977 and the CAA C of A air test on December 1st. She was a stablemate to an identical 280C Shark G-BEEL. My log book shows I demonstrated her to half a dozen potential buyers around the country until she was sold to Ken Smith of the Forfar Spud (sorry Potato Company) at Forfar Scotland.
Interestingly, I took G-BEEK to the UK Helicopter Championships at Epsom Racecourse in June 1978 where no less than a personage than Prince Charles flew in her with me on a demonstration flight. (I have the picture too) Believe it or not, HRH was a Championship Judge at that event.
More waffle: I once landed her at the Army barracks in the centre of Winchester (forgot their name now- Victoria Barracks possibly) then took her for static display at the 1978 Farnborough event ... 1st to 10th September. In September 1979 she was sold to a dear mate, Bob House of Uniweld, hence the changed reg to G-WELD. (I think) She did more ownership rounds until in May 1983, I re-purchased her for my new company Skyline Helicopters at WAP and registered her as G-WSKY and onward sold to Ed Terris.
Hope that's bored to tears all the reggie buffs out there. Bye for now. Dennis K.
Well now you are dabbling with another old war horse from my Spooner Aviation days being serial number 1037, CAA reg G-BEEK.
The first thing to say about the 1979 Biggin Hill picture is that apart from showing the BEEK machine, more interestingly is the background which shows the first ever Enstrom 280L 4 seat Hawk, but sadly the tail cone only. You'll note I 'gave' her the registration HAWK for the period of the Biggin Hill show only. The actual G-HAWK went elsewhere of course! The other interesting titbit is the two gentlemen alongside the Hawk, being my old boss, Roy Spooner and my Chief Flying Instructor, Wing Commander Chris Bartlett.
So to the dates. I did the first assembly flight on G-BEEK on October 25th 1977 and the CAA C of A air test on December 1st. She was a stablemate to an identical 280C Shark G-BEEL. My log book shows I demonstrated her to half a dozen potential buyers around the country until she was sold to Ken Smith of the Forfar Spud (sorry Potato Company) at Forfar Scotland.
Interestingly, I took G-BEEK to the UK Helicopter Championships at Epsom Racecourse in June 1978 where no less than a personage than Prince Charles flew in her with me on a demonstration flight. (I have the picture too) Believe it or not, HRH was a Championship Judge at that event.
More waffle: I once landed her at the Army barracks in the centre of Winchester (forgot their name now- Victoria Barracks possibly) then took her for static display at the 1978 Farnborough event ... 1st to 10th September. In September 1979 she was sold to a dear mate, Bob House of Uniweld, hence the changed reg to G-WELD. (I think) She did more ownership rounds until in May 1983, I re-purchased her for my new company Skyline Helicopters at WAP and registered her as G-WSKY and onward sold to Ed Terris.
Hope that's bored to tears all the reggie buffs out there. Bye for now. Dennis K.
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Bravo Denissimo! 
This then will have been two years after we first met at the 1977 Biggin Hill Air Fair, just one day prior to Ferranti's terrible tragedy.
To add to these, David Hanies (who has been contributing some wonderful images to the thread and whose collection we are still showcasing) has come up with these additionally registered UK Djinns: G-AXFP, G-AXFR and G-AXFS. Meaning that we are just one registration shy of Planemike's total of seven.
EricFerret posed a small challenge on the previous page to do with currently flying Djinns. Sadly I was unable to obtain any details relating to this photo other than it was relatively 'recent'. The notations indicate that this may have been taken in Wisconsin in the US but .. I cannot be at all certain about this.
An airworthy Djinn "somewhere" .. 'relatively recent'
This then will have been two years after we first met at the 1977 Biggin Hill Air Fair, just one day prior to Ferranti's terrible tragedy.
Planemike wrote: .. seven SO-1221 Djinns were registered in the UK including G-AXBX, G-AXFO and G-AXFU.
EricFerret posed a small challenge on the previous page to do with currently flying Djinns. Sadly I was unable to obtain any details relating to this photo other than it was relatively 'recent'. The notations indicate that this may have been taken in Wisconsin in the US but .. I cannot be at all certain about this.
An airworthy Djinn "somewhere" .. 'relatively recent'
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Well well, that didn't take long!
Within minutes of submitting the above post David came in with an email providing the full compliment of UK Djinn registrations as well as the identity (and back story) to the airworthy Djinn in the above post .. plus his own shot of the aircraft - isn't PPRuNe great!
The seven UK Djinns were:
G-AXBX
G-AXFO
G-AXFP
G-AXFR
G-AXFS
G-AXFT
G-AXFU
The airworthy Djinn was F-BIEV and she was indeed Stateside as part of a contingent of French light aircraft which had been flown across the Atlantic aboard an Airbus 'Beluga' transporter in order to attend Oshkosh in 2003.
And here is David photo of her while there:
Sud-Ouest Djinn F-BIEV as seen at Oshkosh on 29th July 2003 (Photo: David Haines)
Within minutes of submitting the above post David came in with an email providing the full compliment of UK Djinn registrations as well as the identity (and back story) to the airworthy Djinn in the above post .. plus his own shot of the aircraft - isn't PPRuNe great!
The seven UK Djinns were:
G-AXBX
G-AXFO
G-AXFP
G-AXFR
G-AXFS
G-AXFT
G-AXFU
The airworthy Djinn was F-BIEV and she was indeed Stateside as part of a contingent of French light aircraft which had been flown across the Atlantic aboard an Airbus 'Beluga' transporter in order to attend Oshkosh in 2003.
And here is David photo of her while there:
Sud-Ouest Djinn F-BIEV as seen at Oshkosh on 29th July 2003 (Photo: David Haines)
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Hi Sav,
A bit more meat for the bones from the CAA archives,
AXBX S/N 1043/FR93
AXFO S/N 1001/FR7
AXFP S/N 1041/FR91
AXFR S/N 1042/FR92
AXFS S/N 1015/FR51
AXFT S/N 1105/FR72
AXFU S/N 1106/FR18
BX was registered 12-03-69 and the rest 20-05-69
to Agricultural Air Services Ltd., London
all cancelled 12-03-70 and all to France.
Wiggy
p.s. a check on the French register gives 14 registered,
F-AZPV,BHOT,BIEV,BIPY,BJRO,BMLP,BNEY,BRGC,BSES,BSEU,BTGA,BTGB,
GHIG and OGIL.
A bit more meat for the bones from the CAA archives,
AXBX S/N 1043/FR93
AXFO S/N 1001/FR7
AXFP S/N 1041/FR91
AXFR S/N 1042/FR92
AXFS S/N 1015/FR51
AXFT S/N 1105/FR72
AXFU S/N 1106/FR18
BX was registered 12-03-69 and the rest 20-05-69
to Agricultural Air Services Ltd., London
all cancelled 12-03-70 and all to France.
Wiggy
p.s. a check on the French register gives 14 registered,
F-AZPV,BHOT,BIEV,BIPY,BJRO,BMLP,BNEY,BRGC,BSES,BSEU,BTGA,BTGB,
GHIG and OGIL.
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Eric: A fairly straightforward challenge in that it is pretty much common knowledge that there remains only one airworthy Sycamore .. the well-known 'X-Ray Bravo' located just north of Italy.
'XB' was owned by Peter Schmid (a vineyard owner) of Altenrhein in Switzerland from 1988 to 2010 when she was bought by The Flying Bulls where she now lives in 'Hangar 8' of the 'Bulls' museum on Wilhelm-Spazier-Straße at W.A. Mozart Airport in Salzburg, Austria.
The example is a type 171 Sycamore Mk 52G sn: 13457 and was manufactured in 1957. Having had a short leave of absence from flying she is currently undergoing a programme of restoration to bring her back to airworthiness; a project being overseen by Flying Bulls Senior Technician Gerhard Moik and worked upon by Flying Bulls Helicopter Technician Roman Gitterle.
I very much hope to visit 'XB' as she nears readiness for her post-restoration test flight and to attend her first public display.
Bristol Type 171B Sycamore HR52 HB-RXB at Salzburg's WA Mozart Airport in Austria on 26th January 2012 (Photo: Rainer Bexten)
Bristol Type 171B Sycamore HR52 HB-RXB at Zurich Airport in Switzerland on 10th September 2004 (Photo: Balazs Pinter)
'XB' was owned by Peter Schmid (a vineyard owner) of Altenrhein in Switzerland from 1988 to 2010 when she was bought by The Flying Bulls where she now lives in 'Hangar 8' of the 'Bulls' museum on Wilhelm-Spazier-Straße at W.A. Mozart Airport in Salzburg, Austria.
The example is a type 171 Sycamore Mk 52G sn: 13457 and was manufactured in 1957. Having had a short leave of absence from flying she is currently undergoing a programme of restoration to bring her back to airworthiness; a project being overseen by Flying Bulls Senior Technician Gerhard Moik and worked upon by Flying Bulls Helicopter Technician Roman Gitterle.
I very much hope to visit 'XB' as she nears readiness for her post-restoration test flight and to attend her first public display.
Bristol Type 171B Sycamore HR52 HB-RXB at Salzburg's WA Mozart Airport in Austria on 26th January 2012 (Photo: Rainer Bexten)
Bristol Type 171B Sycamore HR52 HB-RXB at Zurich Airport in Switzerland on 10th September 2004 (Photo: Balazs Pinter)
Damn, should have asked the wife, she knows everything!!!!!!
Reminds me a little of an incident with the Sycamore that was the gate guard at Middle Wallop.
It was dragged into the sprayshop for a repaint and while there we were tasked with carrrying out some maintenance, such as inflating the oleo's.
We were visited by a enthusiastic officer who had the intention fo getting it flying.
I pointed out that the blades had taken a severe set from years of hanging down and that when laid "flat" the difference between the extremities and the middle was about four feet.
I also demonstrated a lack of structural integrity by putting a finger through the mag structure in several places.
The aircraft in the photo looks great and it will be nice to see back in the air.
Reminds me a little of an incident with the Sycamore that was the gate guard at Middle Wallop.
It was dragged into the sprayshop for a repaint and while there we were tasked with carrrying out some maintenance, such as inflating the oleo's.
We were visited by a enthusiastic officer who had the intention fo getting it flying.
I pointed out that the blades had taken a severe set from years of hanging down and that when laid "flat" the difference between the extremities and the middle was about four feet.
I also demonstrated a lack of structural integrity by putting a finger through the mag structure in several places.
The aircraft in the photo looks great and it will be nice to see back in the air.
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Savoia,
Outstanding, your rotary history and knowledge knows no bounds. Gotta love the tail wheel mod under the tail skid, upper Sycamore photo! Soggy oleos?
Plank
Outstanding, your rotary history and knowledge knows no bounds. Gotta love the tail wheel mod under the tail skid, upper Sycamore photo! Soggy oleos?
Plank
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Wiggy, well done! 
Swisscamore .. nice one PC!
Thank you for the various compliments re: my rotary-wing knowledge. If it is so then it doubtless stems from our family's total immersion in aviation!
My father was an aviator (plank) and one of the first European owners of the now classic Beechcraft D-17 'Staggerwing' along with a string of other aircraft. But .. it was when he met 'the Colonel' that everything changed.
Me and my brothers had been brought-up flying in aircraft but the day I first flew in a helicopter changed my life forever and for ten glorious years I made it my profession before I had to get a 'real' job, lol!
One of my brothers is a senior captain with BA (25 years now), his wife is also a pilot. My mother is an ex-flight attendant as is my ex-wife. Another brother flies recreationally (planks) and two of my cousins are at present learning to fly! So its just everywhere in our family.
Having said that, there are those I know whose knowledge of things rotary would embarrass me because, in reality, I don't know that much although I'm pretty keen on it as you may have guessed.
Other thing .. much of what I've shared on here addresses a pretty slender slice of time, roughly between '79 and '84!
But, its all good fun and the contributions of others are what makes it so interesting for me.
A wee trip down memory lane ..
A young Savoia in overalls with 'FHL' initials for Ferranti Helicopters Ltd. (also written on the back of the coveralls) at the Copthorne Hotel near London Gatwick in September 1978. The Colonel to the left. The aircraft .. G-BFAL, the UK's first LongRanger belonging to Mohammed Al Fayed who in those days had his aircraft managed by Ferranti
This photo was taken on the way to the '78 Farnborough Air Show. The lady with glasses was the owner of a German helicopter company which were looking to buy Ferranti. The company was however eventually sold a year later to B-Cal.
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Swisscamore .. nice one PC!
Thank you for the various compliments re: my rotary-wing knowledge. If it is so then it doubtless stems from our family's total immersion in aviation!
My father was an aviator (plank) and one of the first European owners of the now classic Beechcraft D-17 'Staggerwing' along with a string of other aircraft. But .. it was when he met 'the Colonel' that everything changed.
Me and my brothers had been brought-up flying in aircraft but the day I first flew in a helicopter changed my life forever and for ten glorious years I made it my profession before I had to get a 'real' job, lol!
One of my brothers is a senior captain with BA (25 years now), his wife is also a pilot. My mother is an ex-flight attendant as is my ex-wife. Another brother flies recreationally (planks) and two of my cousins are at present learning to fly! So its just everywhere in our family.
Having said that, there are those I know whose knowledge of things rotary would embarrass me because, in reality, I don't know that much although I'm pretty keen on it as you may have guessed.
Other thing .. much of what I've shared on here addresses a pretty slender slice of time, roughly between '79 and '84!
But, its all good fun and the contributions of others are what makes it so interesting for me.
A wee trip down memory lane ..
A young Savoia in overalls with 'FHL' initials for Ferranti Helicopters Ltd. (also written on the back of the coveralls) at the Copthorne Hotel near London Gatwick in September 1978. The Colonel to the left. The aircraft .. G-BFAL, the UK's first LongRanger belonging to Mohammed Al Fayed who in those days had his aircraft managed by Ferranti
This photo was taken on the way to the '78 Farnborough Air Show. The lady with glasses was the owner of a German helicopter company which were looking to buy Ferranti. The company was however eventually sold a year later to B-Cal.
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Re the Fairey Ultralight in #1825, I think this is another view of the background ....the control tower and the date of the demise of G-ACZP should nail it!....Looks like White Waltham June 1958 to me (and my logbook tells me I was there
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G-AIBE by David Whitworth, on Flickr
)....G-AIBE by David Whitworth, on Flickr
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Having recently celebrated the Epiphany (btw where is he these days?) .. "The Three Whirwinds":
Bristow Whirlwinds (probably Mk III's) VR-BFG and VR-BB something .. being prepared for storage at Redhill in July 1977 (Photo: Martin Harrison Collection)
Evidently these were broken up the follwing year.
Bristow Whirlwinds (probably Mk III's) VR-BFG and VR-BB something .. being prepared for storage at Redhill in July 1977 (Photo: Martin Harrison Collection)
Evidently these were broken up the follwing year.
Wiggy.......
Can add a little more to your list:-
AXBX S/N 1043/FR93 Ex F-BIUA To F-xxxx
AXFO S/N 1001/FR7 Ex F-BHOI To F-BSES
AXFP S/N 1041/FR91 Ex F-BIFP To F-BSEX
AXFR S/N 1042/FR92 Ex F-BIFQ To F-xxxx
AXFS S/N 1015/FR51 Ex F-BIEU To F-BSEU
AXFT S/N 1105/FR72 Ex F-BMLH To F-xxxx
AXFU S/N 1106/FR18 Ex F-BMLO To F-xxxx
Few other comments:
I have another registration date for the XF M/cs of 13 June 69, as you say G-INFO shows 20 May 69, more likely the correct date.
Not surprisingly the French authorities had no problem in issuing the registration F-BSEX......!!! We in Britain could not bring ourselves to issue G-ASEX or G-BSEX !!!
Sav.......
Methinks you are a tad too modest !!!!!
A30yoyo.....
Yes, think you are correct, the Fulmar is also in shot on the photo in msg no:1822. The presence of the Fulmar and the Ultralight together certainly makes one think, White Waltham. The marquees made me think of a Shackleton or Vigors sales weekend and hence Kidlington or Baginton.
The shot in msg no:1856 is certainly White Waltham.
Planemike
Can add a little more to your list:-
AXBX S/N 1043/FR93 Ex F-BIUA To F-xxxx
AXFO S/N 1001/FR7 Ex F-BHOI To F-BSES
AXFP S/N 1041/FR91 Ex F-BIFP To F-BSEX
AXFR S/N 1042/FR92 Ex F-BIFQ To F-xxxx
AXFS S/N 1015/FR51 Ex F-BIEU To F-BSEU
AXFT S/N 1105/FR72 Ex F-BMLH To F-xxxx
AXFU S/N 1106/FR18 Ex F-BMLO To F-xxxx
Few other comments:
I have another registration date for the XF M/cs of 13 June 69, as you say G-INFO shows 20 May 69, more likely the correct date.
Not surprisingly the French authorities had no problem in issuing the registration F-BSEX......!!! We in Britain could not bring ourselves to issue G-ASEX or G-BSEX !!!
Sav.......
Having said that, there are those I know whose knowledge of things rotary would embarrass me because, in reality, I don't know that much although I'm pretty keen on it as you may have guessed.
A30yoyo.....
Yes, think you are correct, the Fulmar is also in shot on the photo in msg no:1822. The presence of the Fulmar and the Ultralight together certainly makes one think, White Waltham. The marquees made me think of a Shackleton or Vigors sales weekend and hence Kidlington or Baginton.
The shot in msg no:1856 is certainly White Waltham.
Planemike
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