Agusta AW139
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Any rumours about the AB139?
Hi,
with all the discussion regarding the EC225 and S92, I'm wondering, is there also this much knowledge about the AB139?
It's single engine performance is supposed to be great, but is this true?
Does anybody know how it flies?
How's its position regarding it's competition regarding offshore (S76C, EC155, etc).
Just wondering
DJG
with all the discussion regarding the EC225 and S92, I'm wondering, is there also this much knowledge about the AB139?
It's single engine performance is supposed to be great, but is this true?
Does anybody know how it flies?
How's its position regarding it's competition regarding offshore (S76C, EC155, etc).
Just wondering
DJG
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It was in Galveston, TX a couple of weeks back, at the Evergreen hangar. Supposedly doing hot & humid testing, and they had the right place for that. They spent a lot of time hovering OGE, but other than that I don't know much.
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I've been off line for a while so sorry for the delay in responding.
I've been trying to get back to fly the machine for some time, but it's been busy doing avionics and hot weather testing.
My impression was very favorable - great field of view, smooth, fast, nice displays, and a baggage compartment you could hover an R-22 in.
Simple in appearance, and a huge cockpit as well.
And you don't have to climb up anything to get in it - the cockpit door on the co-pilot's side was so wide that I didn't have to do any contortions to get past the collective head.
I've been trying to get back to fly the machine for some time, but it's been busy doing avionics and hot weather testing.
My impression was very favorable - great field of view, smooth, fast, nice displays, and a baggage compartment you could hover an R-22 in.
Simple in appearance, and a huge cockpit as well.
And you don't have to climb up anything to get in it - the cockpit door on the co-pilot's side was so wide that I didn't have to do any contortions to get past the collective head.
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skymaster19 said: "Recently had the FAA Avionics project engineer available. Indicated the avionics EP's (as of now) are volumes thick."
That EPIC system is a real marvel, actually a bit similar to some research cockpits that I have flown. It is not just avionics, that is pronbably one of the reasons why its procedures look so long, on paper. It can be circuit breakers, normal switches, systems controls, health, autopilot, and avionics.
I had a demo CD at one time that was simply so far reaching, it had features that Comanche had, a real statement for a civil system developed with commercial dollars!
That EPIC system is a real marvel, actually a bit similar to some research cockpits that I have flown. It is not just avionics, that is pronbably one of the reasons why its procedures look so long, on paper. It can be circuit breakers, normal switches, systems controls, health, autopilot, and avionics.
I had a demo CD at one time that was simply so far reaching, it had features that Comanche had, a real statement for a civil system developed with commercial dollars!
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Nick,
Interesting that what is supposed to be so automated (Avionics and displays) can be such a challenge to learn for us over 40. I think the 92 MFD's and "Rubberband" are light years ahead compared to IIDS as far as being user friendly.
Spirits are up around the Center. Joint team effort and now a Level C to get everyone through.
BTW, we just hired your double....
Keith
Interesting that what is supposed to be so automated (Avionics and displays) can be such a challenge to learn for us over 40. I think the 92 MFD's and "Rubberband" are light years ahead compared to IIDS as far as being user friendly.
Spirits are up around the Center. Joint team effort and now a Level C to get everyone through.
BTW, we just hired your double....
Keith
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SkyMaster19,
My double, huh? Poor guy. Congrats to the team for getting the sim approved, can I fly it now?
The thing about all those EP's is probably more to do with the scope of the system, and the conservative FAA, who want to be sure and dot all the i's on a new type system. Think about it, does your flight manual have an EP for Oil Pressure Gage failure? I'll bet the new Epic manual has similar coverage for common failures that must now be specified.
My double, huh? Poor guy. Congrats to the team for getting the sim approved, can I fly it now?
The thing about all those EP's is probably more to do with the scope of the system, and the conservative FAA, who want to be sure and dot all the i's on a new type system. Think about it, does your flight manual have an EP for Oil Pressure Gage failure? I'll bet the new Epic manual has similar coverage for common failures that must now be specified.
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Ab 139 Cockpit
Hay!
My friend is working on AB-139 Model for Flight Simulator.
I was wondering if any of you "rotorheads" have any closeup pictures of AB-139. (Exterior or interior)
Thank you for your help.
My friend is working on AB-139 Model for Flight Simulator.
I was wondering if any of you "rotorheads" have any closeup pictures of AB-139. (Exterior or interior)
Thank you for your help.
fundercc,
try this URL for a production list. Not too sure how up to date it is. Aga Khan have 5, Namibia Govt have 2, Air Green have at least 1, Elilario have at least 1, and there is another 1 in the UAE. A few minor problems with some machines, mostly avionic/electrical. Others are working with no problems at all. Power to spare according to the pilot types, and fast as well (150knot cruise). I see you are in Saudi, not with ARAMCO are you??
http://www.dgualdo.it/prod-ab139.htm
nooby
try this URL for a production list. Not too sure how up to date it is. Aga Khan have 5, Namibia Govt have 2, Air Green have at least 1, Elilario have at least 1, and there is another 1 in the UAE. A few minor problems with some machines, mostly avionic/electrical. Others are working with no problems at all. Power to spare according to the pilot types, and fast as well (150knot cruise). I see you are in Saudi, not with ARAMCO are you??
http://www.dgualdo.it/prod-ab139.htm
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Damiano's site is pretty much up to date. He doesnt live far from the Agusta plant and pretty much has the latest imagery of their new deliveries.
Cheers
Ned
P.S. Evergreen also have one but it has been leased back to Bell Agusta and rumour I got when in Africa last week was that one of the Namibian machines is grounded as they cooked one of the engines.
Cheers
Ned
P.S. Evergreen also have one but it has been leased back to Bell Agusta and rumour I got when in Africa last week was that one of the Namibian machines is grounded as they cooked one of the engines.
bwm 85, try www.hovercontrol.com they have some good helis there.
Ned, sounds like a good rumour!!
At the moment one machine in Namibia is out in the wops for a week flying around, and the other one is sitting in the hangar with nothing to do. What the guys you were talking to probably meant to say is that, a while back, there were some problems with the engines that P&W addressed through service bulletins (Fuel cooled oil cooler, Power Turbine). The only issue now that I am aware of, is sand injestion (funny that, flying round in the desert!!). At least one of the Namibia machines is trialling a Bleed Air Particle Sep, which will be a welcome addition when its certification is completed
Ned, sounds like a good rumour!!
At the moment one machine in Namibia is out in the wops for a week flying around, and the other one is sitting in the hangar with nothing to do. What the guys you were talking to probably meant to say is that, a while back, there were some problems with the engines that P&W addressed through service bulletins (Fuel cooled oil cooler, Power Turbine). The only issue now that I am aware of, is sand injestion (funny that, flying round in the desert!!). At least one of the Namibia machines is trialling a Bleed Air Particle Sep, which will be a welcome addition when its certification is completed
hehe, used to work for alsalam in saudi. sheesh. met a few aramco guys in italy earlier this year, they were doing 109e course, i was doing 139 course, they indicated that you guys might be looking at the 139 as well. leaves a 412 for dead!!! not as much of a truck as the 212, needs a bit more care, but lifts more. 6000lb external if i remember correctly. don't quote me on that though, i have yet to see a cargo hook on a production machine, and only saw one on a prototype!!
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AB139 Simulator
Does anyone have any info on the development of an AB139 full-motion simulator?
Useful info would include dates and possible location.
Also, do any pilots have any feedback on the Aircraft itself?
Thanks in advance,
JG
Useful info would include dates and possible location.
Also, do any pilots have any feedback on the Aircraft itself?
Thanks in advance,
JG
around Sasto Calende in Italy.
Don't hold your breath or you'll pass out!
