German Police MD 902 Crash
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German Police MD 902 Crash
Another MD 902 of the Police of Lower Saxony, Germany was destroyed while on a training mission. The crash happened in the Hannover area near Elze. The crew of three were lucky again, only minor injuries.
Pics: Polizeihubschrauber verunglückt in der Wedemark Mediathek / HAZ - Hannoversche Allgemeine
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Pics: Polizeihubschrauber verunglückt in der Wedemark Mediathek / HAZ - Hannoversche Allgemeine
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Please can you add 'Germany' to the thread title.
And not a MD900 / 902 simulator in sight anywhere...
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Glad the crew are okay. I guess Rotorcraft Pro will have to revisit its 'interesting' claim from last January that "...the Explorers safety record [is] hands down the best in the industry..." 
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Murphy's laws up your ****
I´m really glad they walked away. However something is starting to bother me a lot. Looks like this year is starting with way too many accidents, don't you think?.
I just hope that the
holes of the cheese are not trying to line up and play us a bad joke 
. I don't know whether is plain bud luck, complacency, pressure factors because of the crisis 
or all added up, but something smells really bad.
You stay safe up there for God's sake.
P.S. Sorry for the language, I'm in a bad mood today
I just hope that the
holes of the cheese are not trying to line up and play us a bad joke . I don't know whether is plain bud luck, complacency, pressure factors because of the crisis or all added up, but something smells really bad.You stay safe up there for God's sake.
P.S. Sorry for the language, I'm in a bad mood today
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Chuffed they all got out OK!! A good indicator of the machines toughness. Before it all starts..... those exploders are good machines and safe, well as safe as any thing that flies. Please don't let us turn this into a ewwwwwwww MD are not safe issue/rumour. I only know of two ( in germany as it happens, probably by bad luck nothing more) and no one has been killed, so that to me means BINGO well made whirly thing.
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peterprobe: B2116 is the most serious of note, a Chinese marine pilot transfer operation, which I believe crashed with 3 fatalities. following an anti-torque malfunction.
Griffin-helicopters have an excellent accident database, have a look, there are a few 900/902 incidents.
Griffin Helicopters | Accident Database
Griffin-helicopters have an excellent accident database, have a look, there are a few 900/902 incidents.
Griffin Helicopters | Accident Database
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Interesting the the rotor head is laying next to the machine, relatively intact with all blades attached albiet broken.
It looks like the static mast was pulled right out (or broken) of the mast support. I have only heard of that 3 times, once in an IAF Apache, once in a special ops MH-6 and now possibly this machine.
Does anyone know what type of training maneuver they were attempting?
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It looks like the static mast was pulled right out (or broken) of the mast support. I have only heard of that 3 times, once in an IAF Apache, once in a special ops MH-6 and now possibly this machine.
Does anyone know what type of training maneuver they were attempting?
Mark
Another one in 2004 in Japan.
See http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/eng-air_report/JA6757.pdf
Pretty interesting as well
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See http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/eng-air_report/JA6757.pdf
Pretty interesting as well
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A quick look at the Griffin Helicopters accident database suggested above shows five 902 accidents with no fatalities. The same database shows 17 EC135 accidents including 7 involving fatalities. I don't know how comprehensive this database is, but it puts this latest accident in perspective before we start making assumptions about the 902's safety record.
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All companies are reducing flight hours-especially all governmental helo operators are near at the absolute minimum...
Rumours are spreading, that they got into white out conditions prior crashing...
Other rumours say that the pilot had just a few hundert hours-and had been involved in another crash just a few years ago...
(I think that they maybe swap something...maybe the P(F) had only a few hours-and maybe the other P(NF) (IP?) had been involved in an accident....)?
We will have to wait for more (proofed) details....
Rumours are spreading, that they got into white out conditions prior crashing...
Other rumours say that the pilot had just a few hundert hours-and had been involved in another crash just a few years ago...
(I think that they maybe swap something...maybe the P(F) had only a few hours-and maybe the other P(NF) (IP?) had been involved in an accident....)?
We will have to wait for more (proofed) details....
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wallsend: It must have been a quick look at the database as the chinese aircraft involved 3 fatalities.
If you are going to start your own EC135 comparison, you should calculate your statistic in percentages as the numbers of 135 vs 902 in the world are very different with a ratio of at least 5:1.
An aircraft has crashed and all survived - nobody has made any comparisons between this and any other aircraft, the thread has merely opened up (understandably - and always happens regardless of type) a look at the aircrafts incident history. Nobody has suggested the aircraft is unsafe or otherwise.
If you are going to start your own EC135 comparison, you should calculate your statistic in percentages as the numbers of 135 vs 902 in the world are very different with a ratio of at least 5:1.
An aircraft has crashed and all survived - nobody has made any comparisons between this and any other aircraft, the thread has merely opened up (understandably - and always happens regardless of type) a look at the aircrafts incident history. Nobody has suggested the aircraft is unsafe or otherwise.