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Old 9th Jun 2009, 21:33
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civvie pilots are invariably ex-military
I'll wager that there are more 'civvi' pilots out there than ex-mil types!

If you are narrowing it right down to the police aviation world, speaking from where I am we have a 50/50 police line pilot split.
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50/50 police line pilot split
Is that another term for Transgender?
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Lol.

Given the clear line of discussion here, something you need to tell us WL?
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Just to clarify - I am of the belief that, in the UK, the majority of Police pilots are ex-military, albeit that they are regarded as "civvie". Certainly of the 25+ in this region, I only know of 2 or 3 with a non-military background.
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Not to dwell on actual numbers Zorab; Given that, lets say 'most' Police pilots are ex-military, how can we take advantage of that, given the incident at West Mids?
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I hear that one force has decided to deploy its observers on the streets if the aircraft is down for more than three hours. The pilot is left to man the phones and in the event of the UEO being absent he is expected to make a decision on calling in mutual aid
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Good to hear you keep your ear to the ground - just the sort of thing to tempt you back!! I,m also sure you know that not all 'civvie pilots' are ex-mil AND all ex-mil pilots are civvies!!

Make a decision!! now that would be a novelty!!
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Given that, lets say 'most' Police pilots are ex-military, how can we take advantage of that, given the incident at West Mids?
Following on from your comments in the W Mids thread, but keeping on track re the civvie discussion here, I very much align myself with most of your comments both here & there, and share your concerns at those who are pleased to carp after the horse has bolted. However, I'm not sure any Police Force (who won't arm more than their own Firearms Officers with Taser), would contemplate any form of weapon in the hands of ex-military pilots, for the purpose of defending their aircraft, whether they're directly emloyed civvies or not!

Notwithstanding that, I know that some would jump at the chance to fit auto-fire gatling guns to the rooftops before you could say "knife" - that's those who have no idea what all this hindsight-security costs the taxpayer, of course!
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Parmaannn whoever you are, having read through this thread I have decided your weird and I am amazed folk have had superb patience listening to you, congrats on your 15 minutes of fame
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Old 10th Jun 2009, 20:14
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I am of the belief that, in the UK, the majority of Police pilots are ex-military, albeit that they are regarded as "civvie".
As of last summer, full time Police helicopter pilots were made up as follows:

Ex Military: 97. Civilian(ie not Ex Mil) 22, of which I think 2 were ladies.

The ex Mil were split as follows: Army 56, RAF 11, RN 19, Royal Marine 11.

The numbers only include those employed fulltime at units, and not floaters/relieve pilots.
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To my knowledge it's only one lady now.
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According to What Limits earlier, we may be back up to 2 shortly
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I thought the police were civilian any way

Quite illuminating to read your post.
Do the police not see themselves as civilians, if not civilians then what??
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Ex Military: 97. Civilian(ie not Ex Mil) 22, of which I think 2 were ladies.

The ex Mil were split as follows: Army 56, RAF 11, RN 19, Royal Marine 11.
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Hands, Time, Too Much!!
Not really. I do it every couple of years just to keep track of those that I know. And for occasions like this.
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SS the more the merrier.
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Is that another term for Transgender?
Why the interest - are you looking for a tranny vocation?
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Originally Posted by Heli-phile
thought the police were civilian any way

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Quite illuminating to read your post.
Do the police not see themselves as civilians, if not civilians then what??
No. Although it's just a play on words really. They are not considered "Civilians", they are "Crown Servants" (or Public Servants if you like). They are "Citizens" though.

From the Oxford English Dictionary -

civilian
• noun - a person not in the armed services or the police force.
• adjective - relating to a civilian.
— ORIGIN Old French civilien, in the phrase droit civilien ‘civil law’
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Why the interest - are you looking for a tranny vocation?
I guess as a transgender, ex-military civilian, Captain Doctor, with a disability and native ancestry, they would have to promote me straight to Chief Constable.
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Volrider. Weird? Me? I think you should look closer to home. Some of the contributors to this Post may have to own up to that.
As to 15 minutes of fame. I think that 15 minutes is not nearly enough in this multi layered media age.
I see that you have nothing to bring to the debate apart from the age old, "I don't agree with you therefore I will ignore you" Syndrome. It's a pity really because the people who want to retain Spanish Practices on this post need allies , not snipers.
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