Helicopter crash off the coast of Newfoundland - 18 aboard, March 2009
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Sometimes staying level at Vy and MCP is a more interesting situation.....
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CBC journalists from N.L. receive awards
Confirmation that CBC's reporting is a well recieved public service:
CBC News - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC journalists from N.L. receive awards
CBC News - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC journalists from N.L. receive awards
CBC Newfoundland and Labrador also won the online reporting award, for the strength of its coverage and use of technology in reporting the Cougar Helicopters crash in March 2009, which killed 17 people. The award went to developer Peter Gosse, writer John Gushue and editor Kathryn King.
CBC Newfoundland and Labrador also won a continuing coverage award for its ongoing reporting on the Cougar crash and its aftermath.
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CBC journalists from Newfoundland and Labrador win honours from their peers this week.
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Absolutly sick
How on earth can reporters now get awarded for the part in reviewing an accident that killed 17 people
This world is a sick place
It goes to show mainstream media journalists will do anything to sell a story and get awarded for it
What about the 17 people who died in the accident, What about the families to know that their loved ones are not coming home, Are they forgotten ?
I'm sorry but mainstream media journalists have lost all respect from my point of view.
This world is a sick place
It goes to show mainstream media journalists will do anything to sell a story and get awarded for it
What about the 17 people who died in the accident, What about the families to know that their loved ones are not coming home, Are they forgotten ?
I'm sorry but mainstream media journalists have lost all respect from my point of view.
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Totally agree! How is it that a convicted killer, rapist, etc. sells his story from prison and the courts will take away any monies made off the families tragedy, yet journalists do exactly the same thing when it comes to reaping the rewards from family misery. I don't get it sometimes. Yeah the story has to be told and lessons learned, but when it comes to awarding people for these stories, I think it should not be included. Just my rose-coloured glass opinion. 
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IMHO lessons learned will only come from those who are qualified to present them, e.g. helicopter safety inquiry team key contributors such as the TSB.
I didn't see any reporters being asked for their input...they almost never get all the facts right, just their biased opinion that sells the most media via forwarding of selective information. If they are to provide any positive input they should provide all the facts and state where conjecture has been applied.
People have the right to make their own conclusions, but require accurate information and informative education to do so. I never treat anything in a tabloid as gospel, just an opinion for consideration. Unfortunately a lot of people believe the media 100% and are mis-informed.
Perhaps they should make a golden vulture award to give out at their next self-elating ceremony.
Safe flying
Max
I didn't see any reporters being asked for their input...they almost never get all the facts right, just their biased opinion that sells the most media via forwarding of selective information. If they are to provide any positive input they should provide all the facts and state where conjecture has been applied.
People have the right to make their own conclusions, but require accurate information and informative education to do so. I never treat anything in a tabloid as gospel, just an opinion for consideration. Unfortunately a lot of people believe the media 100% and are mis-informed.
Perhaps they should make a golden vulture award to give out at their next self-elating ceremony.
Safe flying
Max
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Pumaboy - Might suggest you clarify that to mainstream media and not trade media who are actually pro the industry. 
You seem to bag journos at every opportunity you can get. Maybe you should stop reading all those trade magazines that cover the helicopter industry since you detest all us journos so much.
You seem to bag journos at every opportunity you can get. Maybe you should stop reading all those trade magazines that cover the helicopter industry since you detest all us journos so much.
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Hi all, I have not read all 32 pages of this thread but have looked at it from time to time so please be kind. I was always querulous as to what happened after the Australia S92 did its precautionary landing and post the Newfoundland accident was maintenance action revisited. Was the gear further inspected inspected or replaced after the findings etc. I wonder because at the time I did hear the first mummers where over torqued studs on the oil filter. IE lets find someone to blame. Last guy to work on it will do.(Not that we live in a blame culture Ha Ha)
Can someone perhaps from CHC enlighten me. And the guy subject to early rumors of over-torqued studs what happen to him? Please no names.
Thanks Poppahymen
Can someone perhaps from CHC enlighten me. And the guy subject to early rumors of over-torqued studs what happen to him? Please no names.
Thanks Poppahymen
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poppahymen,
Here's a website with lots of links about the recent S-92 issues. It was apparently put together by someone with a vested interest in the matter. Lots of stuff to read there if you want to get up to date on the topic.
Here's a list of transcripts and exhibits from the official Canadian TSB inquiry into the matter.
Regards,
riff_raff
Here's a website with lots of links about the recent S-92 issues. It was apparently put together by someone with a vested interest in the matter. Lots of stuff to read there if you want to get up to date on the topic.
Here's a list of transcripts and exhibits from the official Canadian TSB inquiry into the matter.
Regards,
riff_raff
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John Dixson: sorry I didn't respond, before, thanks for your replies in re the problems of an S-92 with its tail rotor losing thrust. I do recall the 40-120 kts stuck pedals from *cough* how many years ago was that? 
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This might get very interesting!
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Sikorsky has asked a federal judge to absolve it of any liability to Cougar Helicopters and a leasing affiliate of Lloyd’s, following the 2009 crash off Newfoundland of a Cougar helicopter built by Sikorsky that killed 17 people.
Sikorsky bases its case on technical terms of a 2004 contract that it says is binding on Lloyd’s and Cougar. Sikorsky also interprets U.S. maritime law to bar any lawsuit from Cougar.
Sikorsky bases its case on technical terms of a 2004 contract that it says is binding on Lloyd’s and Cougar. Sikorsky also interprets U.S. maritime law to bar any lawsuit from Cougar.
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It's a legal argument. Are those by default pathetic? What one signs up to in a contract tends to be binding. SAC seems to have reason to believe that under the law, the legally binding agreement reduces their liability.
Once things enter the courts, such questions and assertions become the rule.
SAC's position may or may not be upheld.
Once things enter the courts, such questions and assertions become the rule.
SAC's position may or may not be upheld.
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Cougar sue Sikorsky
Whats going to happen ?
CBC News - Nfld. & Labrador - Cougar sues chopper-maker over deadly crash
CBC News - Nfld. & Labrador - Cougar sues chopper-maker over deadly crash
Cougar Helicopters and its insurers are suing Sikorsky Aircraft Corp. for more than $25 million in damages following the tragic crash of one of Cougar's Sikorsky helicopters near St. John's on March 12, 2009.
Seventeen people on the helicopter died after it slammed into the ocean 55 kilometres southeast of St. John's. One man, Robert Decker, survived.
Court documents allege Sikorsky "fraudulently misrepresented" the fact that its S-92 helicopter could continue to operate for a half hour after losing oil pressure.
Instead, it appears that on March 12, the Cougar Helicopter crashed 11 minutes after the crew noticed the helicopter was losing oil pressure.
Cougar also claims that Sikorsky failed to tell all helicopter operators of the severity of an August 2008 incident in Australia.
At that time, a Sikorsky S-92 helicopter made an emergency landing after two titanium studs failed, causing a loss of oil pressure.
Cougar says that's "precisely the same series of events that caused" the crash near St. John's in 2009.
U.S.-based Sikorsky has not filed a statement of defence. Cougar's lawsuit was filed on June 24, 2010.
VIH Aviation Group Company, the parent company of Cougar Helicopters, declined to comment on the case.
Seventeen people on the helicopter died after it slammed into the ocean 55 kilometres southeast of St. John's. One man, Robert Decker, survived.
Court documents allege Sikorsky "fraudulently misrepresented" the fact that its S-92 helicopter could continue to operate for a half hour after losing oil pressure.
Instead, it appears that on March 12, the Cougar Helicopter crashed 11 minutes after the crew noticed the helicopter was losing oil pressure.
Cougar also claims that Sikorsky failed to tell all helicopter operators of the severity of an August 2008 incident in Australia.
At that time, a Sikorsky S-92 helicopter made an emergency landing after two titanium studs failed, causing a loss of oil pressure.
Cougar says that's "precisely the same series of events that caused" the crash near St. John's in 2009.
U.S.-based Sikorsky has not filed a statement of defence. Cougar's lawsuit was filed on June 24, 2010.
VIH Aviation Group Company, the parent company of Cougar Helicopters, declined to comment on the case.
Wasn't that bound to eventually happen? 
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I would think it should be more like $250 million......the 
bast@rds!!!
bast@rds!!!
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$25 Million eh !!! Just about the price of a new 92 after the lawyers have taken their cut....
So.... Mr Sikorsky... You just give us a new a/c (out of court settlement of course, with no real egg of your faces plus no civil class actions) and we'll call it quits eh !!
So.... Mr Sikorsky... You just give us a new a/c (out of court settlement of course, with no real egg of your faces plus no civil class actions) and we'll call it quits eh !!